Posted on 01/01/2018 7:13:46 AM PST by euram
Communism was evil and doomed to fall on its own as it did with just a moral nudge from Ronald Reagan.
Donald Trump has tweeted against Iran and that’s fine and like Reagan would have.
But RR didn’t use covert activities to bring down the USSR and Eastern Europe like is being done by the covert operators in Iran, following the pattern of street protests-the pattern of Libya, Syria, Egypt (leading to Muslim Brotherhood rule since ended) and Ukraine.
Egypt didn’t send military advisors to help Assad for nothing. They saw the pattern of what happened to their country happening again.
The right to secede and revolt is not a lawful right. Therefore, it must be exercised on the battlefield, and either suppressed or realized there. But there is a right to secede and/or revolt, not codified in the Constitution, but inherent in the Declaration of Independence and the social contract between the government and the governed.
In the case of the South, I don’t think it was justified at first. Lincoln might have proved a fair and just President to the South, too. But it became justified after the fact by Sherman’s burning and destroying as he marched towards the sea. After the war, Lincoln’s proposed leniency with the South might have reconciled the country. But his assassination made that leniency politically un-achievable.
Once Cliven Bundy’s trial began there was a big discovery evidence dump by the prosecutors.
Among other things was a Bureau of Land Management document saying the “desert tortoise” was not threatened by his cattle grazing.
That’s the reason the whole dispute began in the first place.
The feds said that his cattle were hurting the “desert tortoise” back around 1990.
Fake charges based on a false premise.
Read more of what Grant County, Oregon Sheriff Glenn Palmer had to say about this case as its unfolded in the last two years.
http://nextrushfree.blogspot.com/2017/12/bunkerville-standoff-oregon-sheriff.html
You have no proof that there are any outside influences on Iran, especially from the USA. The pattern emerging there is closer to the overthrow of communism in E. Europe than the middle east.
In the case of Syria we essentially declared war on it. Suddenly what had been tolerated under the Assads became intolerable when it was attacking ISIS allies.
Sherman fought modern warfare and went through the heart of the rebellion, it was completely justified and probably saved lives.
As important as reeling in the environmental overreach is, it is not more important than events in Iran.
Would you attribute demonstrations supporting Bundy to foreign influences?
Female protester to older Iranians:
“You raised your fists and ruined our lives [referring to the 1979 Islamic revolution]. Now we raise our fists [to fix your mistake]. Be men, join us. I as a woman will stand in front and protect you. Come represent your country.”
#IranProtests
don’t get your hopes up.
Iran has the formula to defeat any revolt.
it is called, the Revolutionary Guard.
modern dictatorships usually have something similar
The revolt has Trump.
Tell that to the farmers whose crops he looted and burnt the remainder of in the Susquehana Valley. Tell that to the city of Atlanta. It was modern all right. The British did the same to the Boers. The American rebels did the same to the Iroquois before Sherman. Justified, though? As for saving lives, that’s a moot argument, since the scorched earth campaign also cost lives. The question is, which course would have cost more lives. Same argument about Hiroshima. Only one course was taken, though. If Sherman had simply contended with rebel troops on the battlefield, would it have cost more lives? If I had wheels, would I have been a trolly?
Bottom line is, he burnt Atlanta to satisfy voters, because the Dems were running a campaign in ‘64 saying that the war was unwinnable (familiar?), it’s time to negotiate a settlement, and rebels were sallying into Pennsylvania and looting shops for their supplies, and Pennsylvania shop-owners and their customers were pissed. This was after Gettysburg, and the voters were still unimpressed. There had been a subsequent battle with 5,000 men lost in one day. So when he got to Atlanta, he burnt it down. Lincoln won.
Actually, the more recent figure is 12. Actually, their President spoke out in favor the rights of peaceful protest. Some news people feel this may have been a warning against overzealous behavior by police and military.
You seem to have a short memory, this is also what happened with Solidarity in Poland.The key is to have a shadow government in place ready to step in...
And thank God he did. Hiroshima and Nagasaki saved millions of lives. Had the war not ended when it did millions of Japanese would have starved to death not to mention the soldiers who would fight to the death costing the US hundreds of thousands of casualties.
Like Sherman said “War is Hell.”
What happened in Iran before 2009 with the very needed sabotage of their nuke program including assassination of nuke scientists was not a local operation......
Obama drove that operation “underground” and now Trump is allowing it to come back IMHO.
Yes, but we are not G-d, Who is in charge of Hell. War is what it is. Civilized countries put boundaries on war. Removing those boundaries cannot be justified by “saving lives,” unless one side becomes irrational in its pursuit of victory, and extreme measures are needed to counter their extremism.
You can thus make the argument that Hiroshima and Nagasaki saved lives only because the Japanese were fanatically launching suicide attacks and would not give up despite the fact that they were clearly beaten.
But you cannot make that argument with regards to the scorched earth regimen that Sherman instituted in the Shenandoah Valley (did I really say Susquehana before? Oops.) and Atlanta, because the Confederates were fighting bravely and skillfully in a civilized manner (for the most part). So, too, did the Boers fight a guerrilla hit-and-run campaign, which is legitimate and worthy of respect, so long as it’s fought against uniformed combatants and not civilians. But Lord Kitchener instituted scorched earth and confined to concentration camps their women, children and servants, who were systematically starved.
An enemy that respects the laws of war and fights bravely deserves to have those laws respected regarding his property and family. The Confederates did observe the laws of war. So did Grant’s army, only he consistently won, which was a new thing for the Union. Sherman’s did not, which retroactively provided some legitimacy to the secession idiocy which sparked the war in the first place.
Japan, which interests you, is subject to the same argument, except there the Japanese fanaticism and refusal to face reality made the Bomb a legitimate option, when all considerations in this argument were weighed. But Sherman made war more Hell-ish than he had a right to do, and thereby gave his adversaries a sense of justification which itself encouraged them to fight on, thereby costing lives.
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