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the Trump DJIA, and Its Incredible Bull Run
My Own Thoughts, with multiple links | 01/04/2018 | DoughtyOne for Free Republic

Posted on 01/04/2018 4:26:41 PM PST by DoughtyOne

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GDP during the Obama “recovery” averaged 2%. Half of the average recovery, 1/4 the Reagan recovery. We are not seeing a bubble now, we are seeing a return to “average”, which will be followed by “better than average”. Thanks to increased GDP and the Tax Bill bringing $ trillions of “repatriated” money we will see our first Trump surplus. In a year long term interest rates could be 1 percent higher. This could depress the market value of outstanding 30 US Treasuries dramatically, allowing us to retire some at a deep discount. If this happens even a little bit...Katie bar the door. Dow 40,000.


21 posted on 01/06/2018 7:46:19 AM PST by jdsteel (Give me freedom not more government)
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Don't forget--and I that history will eventually show this--Obama became President on the heels of a financial calamity in this country. (We can discuss whose policies led to that, if any.) It was a big deal, but the sell-off was probably overblown. Some financial institutions were clearly affected, but the intrinsic value of many companies remained the same.

What happens when markets get oversold? Investors buy up shares in those companies soon afterward. While I can't point to a thing that Obama did to help, the markets did stabilize in the year following his inauguration. This led to a normalization of the markets, and it resulted in big gains in 2009. If you stayed invested, you likely made the majority of your losses back, and then some.

That one year contributed greatly to "stock market gains under Obama," and skewed his overall numbers. If you look at late 2013 through Election Day 2016, the markets were generally flat. Liberals either aren't aware of this (highly likely), or simply choose to cherry-pick. Regardless, we likely would've maintained that stagnation under a Hillary Presidency, though her favorite sectors might've benefited from favoritism in policies.

I'm to the point in my 401(k) where a good day can shoot my balance up thousands at a time, and I'm starting to shift my allocation to a slightly more conservative mix. Definitely enjoying this winning!

22 posted on 01/06/2018 12:14:46 PM PST by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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Thanks Lou L.

In preparation for this post, I did look at the history of the market back through 2012. I also looked at certain points in time like early 2009, 09/11/2001, and other periods too.

Your comments are dead on target about Obama’s early years and the movement of the market. Your reasons stated were right on target too.

Without looking for exact figures, my recollection is that the 2015 and 2016 prior to the election probably saw a 1.5-2.0% change during the period up or down. It was a lackluster time period. The early 2016 gains before the election were 3.4%, but I believe 2015 was a down year by roughly the same numbers, perhaps a little less.

At any rate, it wasn’t a time to gloat about, if you were Obama, in relationship to Trump’s market.

I agree with your take on things, and I am glad you are fairing well at this time. Great news.

All the best...


23 posted on 01/06/2018 12:22:50 PM PST by DoughtyOne (McConnell, Ryan, and the whole GOPe are dead to me. Are Alabamans tired of winning?)
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bkmk


24 posted on 01/07/2018 5:13:45 PM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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On Friday the DJIA went up over 220 more points.

The market is now 41.4% higher than it was the morning of 11/07/2016.


25 posted on 01/07/2018 5:19:12 PM PST by DoughtyOne (McConnell, Ryan, and the whole GOPe are dead to me. Are Alabamans tired of winning?)
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MAGA

The ETF "MAGA" doing quite well...also KOL (coal)

26 posted on 01/11/2018 5:31:36 AM PST by spokeshave (FBI = Feral Bureau of Insurrection)
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Good to know.

“:^)


27 posted on 01/11/2018 12:23:37 PM PST by DoughtyOne (McConnell, Ryan, and the whole GOPe are dead to me. Are Alabamans tired of winning?)
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Partner, I agree 100% with less spending by our gov'mint. Sorry I did not get back with ya earlier but my computer went down around this time and I just got mine yesterday late afternoon. I seems like I will have to purchase a new computer.

28 posted on 01/23/2018 12:38:35 PM PST by TheConservativeTejano
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Thank you, and I’m sorry to hear about your computer.


29 posted on 01/23/2018 1:28:52 PM PST by DoughtyOne (01/22/18 DJIA close 26,214.60 46.546% > open on 11/07/16 We're 617.82 from 50% increase under Trump.)
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