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If the GOP controls the government, why does Planned Parenthood still get federal funding?
Washington Examiner ^ | 1/8/18 | Nicole Russell

Posted on 01/08/2018 12:24:50 PM PST by markomalley

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To: Jim 0216

They try to be the “deep left” in that capacity. But they were quite open about it anyhow, even way back in the 50s; this was noted in books such as “The Conscience of a Conservative”.


21 posted on 01/08/2018 1:11:16 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

The whole “conservative” moniker is a problem. A lot of so-called “conservatives” are Leftist Light.

Whatever the Patriotic Lovers of America and Freedom are called, we need to stand up and drive for NOTHING LESS THAN the restoration of our Free Constitutional Republic.


22 posted on 01/08/2018 1:17:35 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: xzins
Every funding bill has to pass the senate and be signed by the potus.

It would never pass the senate. I’m betting it would get stripped in committee hearings.


Right, so let's not even make a feeble effort.
23 posted on 01/08/2018 1:24:06 PM PST by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: Dogbert41
Because Planned Parenthood manages to spend millions of dollars every election attacking pro life candidates.

The real issue here is not the abortions they perform it is he political contributions they make. How can the Government fund an organization that funds democratic campaigns?

24 posted on 01/08/2018 1:28:28 PM PST by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: DoughtyOne
That rat bastard hasn’t got clue one what needs to be done. It was clear last year was his crowning achievement for the decade. No need to do more

I think McConnell was dragged (by the President) across the legislative finish line, as far as tax reform was concerned. I'll give him credit for the Gorsuch nomination, but he was a pristine candidate, and a Justice had to be confirmed. McConnell could've sleepwalked last year, and accomplished just as much.

25 posted on 01/08/2018 1:44:11 PM PST by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: itsahoot

They have tried. It’s been removed or voted down each time just as predicted.

What happened to planned parenthood in obamacare lean repeal bill voted on at end of last year?

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/why-senator-mccain-voted-to-kill-planned-parenthood-defunding


26 posted on 01/08/2018 1:48:52 PM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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To: Sopater

They have tried. It’s been removed or voted down each time just as predicted.

What happened to planned parenthood in obamacare lean repeal bill voted on at end of last year?

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/why-senator-mccain-voted-to-kill-planned-parenthood-defunding


27 posted on 01/08/2018 1:50:32 PM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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Thank you for referencing that article markomalley. Please note that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

"As Planned Parenthood smugly announced, via their 2016-17 annual report [emphasis added], ..."

FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

Regardless that 2017 was Pres. Trump’s first year in office, the 2016-17 federal budget belonged to Obama, that budget ending in late October 2017 I believe, corrections welcome.

So is there abortion funding in the 2017-2018 budget that Trump signed, or is this fake news?

28 posted on 01/08/2018 2:15:48 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: markomalley

Did we ever find out what the reason for Ivanka’s not-so-secret secret meeting with Planned Parenthood way back when?

I did notice that while Ivanka got the sads when she learned about “oh, those beautiful babies” in Syria, that reportedly went into the calculation to launch 60 Tomahawks, Ivanka doesn’t seem to be quite as horrified at PP’s butchering of innocent babies and selling their body parts for top dollar.

But I’m sure Ivanka is vehemently pro-life.


29 posted on 01/08/2018 2:28:21 PM PST by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: markomalley

The swamp remains and has not been drained yet!


30 posted on 01/08/2018 2:29:40 PM PST by Davy Crocket
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To: markomalley

Uniparty. == entire democrat party plus republican leadership plus repub cowards and enablers.


31 posted on 01/08/2018 3:12:49 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Rebelrage

Your Satanic bloodlust to kill babies, and especially black babies, does not belong on this pro-life forum.

Take it somewhere else.


32 posted on 01/08/2018 3:56:04 PM PST by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: itsahoot

“How can the Government fund an organization that funds democratic campaigns?”

Exactly.


33 posted on 01/08/2018 4:12:38 PM PST by Dogbert41 (Jerusalem is the city of The Great King!)
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To: Lou L

Lou, he did keep the spot open stiff arming Obama on the opening, so I do have to credit him for that SCOTUS seat. That truly was a good move. He’s gotten judges moved along pretty well too, so I will applaud him there.

Beyond that the tax bill was essentially it.

On Obamacare he was dismal.

The man sure toots his own horn.


34 posted on 01/08/2018 6:20:22 PM PST by DoughtyOne (McConnell, Ryan, and the whole GOPe are dead to me. Are Alabamans tired of winning?)
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To: Rebelrage

“I didn’t say anything about black babies. The fact that you automatically assume only black people play the knockout game reveals your racism. You should be ashamed.”

I’m not going to be ashamed of opposing abortion advocacy. Abortion is murder. Giving half-a-billion in tax dollars every year to the world’s largest murder-for-hire enterprise is not merely bad fiscal policy, it is also a crime against humanity that should result in the death penalty of those perpetrating it.

It appears you intend to double down on your comment by adding a lie to it. We both know that the “knock out game” is something almost exclusively done by black males against whites. Acknowledging statistical facts is not racism or even prejudice.

However, your post can not be construed as anything other than a warning of the consequences of implementing a pro-life policy. And even if the unwanted pregnancies of white babies that are not aborted lead to angry, white males playing the knock out game down the road, it is still advocating abortion based on situational ethics. Such advocacy does not belong on this forum.

If you are wise, you will report abuse on yourself for the post, stating to the admin or moderator that you misspoke or your comments are being misconstrued. Otherwise it makes you look bad.

Take my advice or don’t.

Aside from God, only you can truly judge your own motives and intentions. You don’t have to defend yourself to me. You will to Him, though. And He knows your motives better than you do.


35 posted on 01/12/2018 12:12:13 PM PST by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: unlearner

If you’re so offended by free speech you should try Twitter or Facebook. They welcome common scolds there.


36 posted on 01/12/2018 12:23:48 PM PST by Rebelrage ("To crush your enemies -- See them driven, and to hear the lamentation of their women)
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To: Rebelrage

“If you’re so offended by free speech you should try Twitter or Facebook.”

Gave you good advice for your own benefit. You chose not to take it.

You should reconsider your decision to have a mental breakdown out in the open on this forum.

Your earlier comment was deranged. Now you are just making a fool out of yourself with nonsensical comments.

Free Republic is NOT the place to post your pro-abortion advocacy. That’s not what free speech is. You should refrain from commenting further on the topic until you first go educate yourself. Otherwise you will be digging your hole deeper than it already is.


37 posted on 01/12/2018 12:58:39 PM PST by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: Rebelrage

“Especially black babies? So aborting a Hispanic baby is ‘better’ than aborting a black baby? Sounds satanic to me. You should take care of the beam in your own eye instead of self righteously flaming others, panties all atwist. Your positing that I’m pro abortion is an unsupported and untrue supposition in any case. My original post was merely stating a fact, inconvenient or not. There was no advocacy on my part as you well know.”

I’m not interested in a private argument with you by email. If you want to argue, I will do it right here.

Nothing in any of my posts supports any kind of abortion, or the idea that aborting babies of one race is better or worse than aborting babies of a different race.

You continue to double down an unwise post which you should have had removed to save yourself some embarrassment.

Your assertion that cutting “off PP funding of abortions” will result in the knockout game surging in popularity in 16 years, is NOT a fact. It is your opinion. You do not have the ability to see the future. If you did, you would have avoided digging a hole for yourself and embarrassing yourself by these comments.

Just admit you made a foolish comment, ask the admin to remove it, and move on. We’ve all said dumb things we regret. Your stubborn pride is just making you look worse.

I fail to see your logic in claiming you are not arguing for abortion in the original statement in post #20. Are you claiming that increases in the knockout game are a benefit to reducing abortion funding? Makes no sense. Your statement is indefensible.

You have failed to defend it as NOT being abortion advocacy. And yet you stand by your statement, claiming it is fact. If you want to continue defending that statement, it will only make you look more foolish, but it is up to you. I’d again suggest you click the abuse link on yourself for post #20 and tell the moderator your statement is misunderstood, unclear, or came across in some way different than you intended. But that is up to you.

I suppose I see how my harsh response may have backed you into a corner and made you feel you have to defend yourself. If you are pro-life, you should just assert you are against abortion in all cases and against government funding of entities like Planned Parenthood and leave it at that.

For me, I’m tired of having the death and perversion culture of the left rammed down my throat constantly in the media and society in general. Free Republic is a place where I take solace in the fact there are many likeminded people who share my views. I don’t particularly enjoy defending pro-life, pro-family, pro-first and -second amendment, and pro-conservative views here in arguments with other forum members.

So if I’ve misconstrued your views, I’m not trying to denigrate you personally, just defending my own. I still strongly recommend for you to quit defending post #20. You can have it removed if you want. I think people respect those who can admit mistakes and own up to them more than those who can simply win an argument. Doing so would not be an admission of guilt on your part or that I somehow won the argument. It is simply a matter of protecting your own reputation which, if you truly are pro-life, I do not want to harm any more than you do.

In fact, if you get the moderator to remove post #20, I will also ask that he remove my post #32. Would that help to bury the hatchet?


38 posted on 01/13/2018 12:17:58 PM PST by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: markomalley
Two Reasons:

Susan Collins.

Lisa Murkowski.

39 posted on 01/13/2018 12:21:57 PM PST by x
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To: markomalley

I would prefer the government keep funding abortions for registered Democrat women.

It should be illegal, under threat of imprisonment, for registered Republican women to have abortions.


40 posted on 01/13/2018 12:27:49 PM PST by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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