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Why does McConnell need 60 votes for spending resolution? When did we abandon majority rule?
Jan 20 2018 | WilliamIII

Posted on 01/20/2018 1:03:00 PM PST by WilliamIII

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To: Vineyard
If the 60 vote threshold is eliminated - the next time we see the House, Senate and Presidency controlled by Democrats - we will get ‘rolled’ even worse than ever.

If the democrats controlled House, Senate, and Presidency, and the Republicans tried to filibuster some legislation they really wanted, do you seriously think they would hesitate a millisecond before ending the filibuster?

Remember how the filibuster rule about voting for confirming judges got nuked by Reid during the Obama administration? The filibuster is only effective against Republicans, mainly because the GOPe only wants to pretend to oppose the globalist agenda.

41 posted on 01/20/2018 2:05:58 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (Big governent is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: WilliamIII

My suspicion is that it gives them an out on why they do not pass legislation that is good for the nation but bad for the swamp. We have known it for a long time, but at long last, we have a champion in the White House and light is shining on the truth.


42 posted on 01/20/2018 2:06:34 PM PST by gspurlock (http://www.backyardfence.wordpress.com)
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To: WilliamIII

The comment is on Coulter’s twitter.
https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

I don’t know if using the word unconstitutional is correct but my recollection is that other CR’s were passed with 51 votes.
This looks like RINO theater. McConnell can orchestrate this how he chooses. I suspect he’s up to something nefarious.


43 posted on 01/20/2018 2:07:20 PM PST by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: WilliamIII

About 200 and 30 years ago. Cloture has been part of parliamentary rules for a long time.


44 posted on 01/20/2018 2:20:33 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Burn. It. Down.)
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To: Vineyard

With all respect. We don’t need new laws. It would be a treat to see the country run by the laws on the books.


45 posted on 01/20/2018 2:22:42 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Burn. It. Down.)
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To: WilliamIII

They dont have 50 republican votes either


46 posted on 01/20/2018 2:29:33 PM PST by italianquaker
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To: Alberta's Child
Because McConnell doesn’t even have 51 GOP votes.

This would be a great opportunity to get Doug Jones (D-AL) on record to see if he supports the Schumer/Pelosi policy of putting the interests of illegal alien invaders over the interests of his fellow Alabamans.

47 posted on 01/20/2018 2:31:23 PM PST by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a' white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: WilliamIII

That is what I am wondering! Why do the Senate Democrats get the ability to shut down the Government?


48 posted on 01/20/2018 2:41:16 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Its unconstitutional in the sense that the Constitution does not provide for it and blocking legislation authorized by the constitution via an artificial requirement to pass laws in contravention of Art I makes it unconstitutional. Ann is quite right.


49 posted on 01/20/2018 2:50:38 PM PST by Okeydoker
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To: fortheDeclaration

Rules of the Senate applies to both sides. It takes a cloture
vote to end debate which is currently 60 votes.


50 posted on 01/20/2018 2:56:02 PM PST by deport
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To: WilliamIII

I think there may really be a movement to cut this threshold for budgets. It’s almost an historic event when a budget is passed these days, and that is not good for the country. Auto-pilot is not Democracy.


51 posted on 01/20/2018 2:56:48 PM PST by babble-on
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To: Alberta's Child; BobL
“Because McConnell doesn’t even have 51 GOP votes

If they changed their rules to a simple majority, they'd get 51 votes. Many are hiding knowing it makes no difference.

52 posted on 01/20/2018 3:00:38 PM PST by chiller (If liberals didn't have double standards, they'd have none at all.)
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To: WilliamIII

McConnell is an idiot


53 posted on 01/20/2018 3:09:17 PM PST by ballplayer
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To: chiller

I think he actually did have 50, because several Democrats voted for it.


54 posted on 01/20/2018 3:24:51 PM PST by babble-on
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To: babble-on

My deep rooted cynicism wants to see how many of those Ds would REMAIN a ‘yes’ if the rules were changed with the ‘Nuclear Option’ in place.

As it is now, those that NOW say yes can go home and say they ‘stood up to the party’, but the real test is how many stay on the R side should a change occur???


55 posted on 01/20/2018 3:31:36 PM PST by xrmusn ((6/98)""In todays world:::WE, THE USofA are Rudyard Kiplings 'Tommy'")
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To: Nabber

Article I, Section 5, Part 2: Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings.

That’s gives each House the constitutional authority to set a 60-vote requirement as each wishes.


56 posted on 01/20/2018 3:48:29 PM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: WilliamIII

Majority rules only applies when the Rats are the majority.


57 posted on 01/20/2018 4:00:30 PM PST by Old Yeller (Auto-correct has become my worst enema.)
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To: WilliamIII

McConnell should have gotten rid of the filibuster rule a year ago. But now that the 2018 elections are only ten months away, he should keep it so as to make the argument that we need 60 GOP senators to enact Trump’s agenda, or indeed, to get anything done at all.


58 posted on 01/20/2018 4:35:41 PM PST by T Ruth (Mohammedanism shall be defeated.)
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To: WilliamIII

It’s definitely extra-constitutional, but not IMO strictly “unconstitutional”.

Still, it is complete BS for the GOP to go along with the farce that they somehow need 60 votes to get anything done.


59 posted on 01/20/2018 4:41:03 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: WilliamIII

Where have you been hiding for decades


60 posted on 01/20/2018 4:56:34 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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