[so_real]

In the sense that people still die, the flu shot is 90% ineffective, influenza is not the killer pneumonia is, vaccinations pose additional health risks, I have family hospitalized from flu shots ... and my tax dollars pay for it ... sure, I have a beef with the fee. But if that is all you got out of my post, and you think the fee is my "real beef", then please do not ever presume to put words in my mouth because you clearly do not have a clue.

[Neoliberalnot]

I know of no one that got the flu from the shot. Utter nonsense and bilge. It is not a live virulent virus vaccine. Flu generates a cytokine storm and if you are talking about bacterial pneumonia, viral infections are often primary and bacterial pneumonias secondary. And influenza does kill people, it is a respiratory virus. Your nonsense is where quacks arise. Stop pretending to be an expert in a field for which you are imminently unqualified just because you have personal family members that get sick. I don’t care if you don’t get a flu shot but your spouting of nonsense and trying to influence others by pretending to know something of virology and immunology is fraudulent.