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GOP memo points to FBI using exact 'enemies list'-style surveillance FISA was supposed to prevent
Fox News ^ | Feb 5 2018 | Allen C. Guelzo

Posted on 02/05/2018 5:26:55 AM PST by smileyface

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To: JPJones

I always thought VJ’s ‘we have two judges ready to go’ meant they WOULD have two once they blackmailed Roberts into catching a terrible case of the flu.


21 posted on 02/05/2018 6:38:18 AM PST by txhurl (Banana Republicans, as far as the eye can see)
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To: smileyface
The Nunes memo does not quote the warrant, but it does indicate that the surveillance hoped "to obtain derogatory information on Donald Trump's ties to Russia."
That misrepresents what the Nunes memo claims about the warrant.

Given a substantial basis of the article is materially false, I hereby deem the article and the author to be "not trustworthy."

22 posted on 02/05/2018 6:49:13 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: hoosiermama

Failed U.S. District Court “Judge” Rudolph Contreras did not understand his immense conflict of interest when he tried to review and approve charges against Flynn to support his original FISA warrant approval to surveill Flynn.

Better to have an honest player review and pass judgement on Rudolph Contreras “work”


23 posted on 02/05/2018 7:22:35 AM PST by Steven Tyler
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To: JPJones

I’ve been stating the same since I turned anti-GW for his support of PA (the metaphorical nail in the coffin was his handling of the P3 incident).


24 posted on 02/05/2018 7:33:39 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: logi_cal869

It’s clear that none of these “anti-terrorism” laws are being used to combat terrorism, but to combat conservatism.


25 posted on 02/05/2018 7:40:01 AM PST by JPJones (More tariffs, less income tax.)
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To: smileyface
The next key questions about the FISA/Page investigation:
What information did the FBI learn from their surveillance- was it so important that they needed to renew the warrant? If so, what did they learn, if not, why did they renew?

And who did the FBI share this information with? Did they tell Fusion GPS either directly, or through Nellie Ohr?

My guess is that they if learned something valuable, they would have acted on it by now. Already, they're grasping at straws trying to make something stick, and they have nothing. So, they kept renewing the warrant hoping to find something, and it just never happened.

26 posted on 02/05/2018 7:40:32 AM PST by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: WellyP

I’m sure the threats McCabe made against Nunes are just the tip of the iceberg compared to the sort of threats Brennan and Clapper will make against all sorts of people if they try and take them down.


27 posted on 02/05/2018 7:56:02 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: txhurl

Stilll pissed about this.


28 posted on 02/05/2018 8:08:50 AM PST by Cats Pajamas (#releasethememo)
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To: politicianslie

Fascinating ... thank you SO MUCH for the post!!!


29 posted on 02/05/2018 9:42:00 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (We are getting even more than we voted for!)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

Rudolph Contreras


30 posted on 02/05/2018 10:11:58 AM PST by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: JPJones

Clearly paints a picture of GW despite the fawning here at FR by some...


31 posted on 02/05/2018 8:31:54 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: Cboldt

Is the CIA required to get a warrant for surveillance?


32 posted on 02/05/2018 8:41:37 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts
-- Is the CIA required to get a warrant for surveillance? --

From the perspective of the law, the same rules apply across the board.

A warrant only matters when the case is brought before the court. IOW, it only matter when the government gets caught, or brings a case into court itself.

I got down in the weeds following a set of cases against the NSA, about 10 of them, were consolidated. FISA has civil damages for people "aggrieved," meaning surveilled without a warrant. FISA has civil damages to deter "illegal" surveillance.

The government successfully had the cases tossed on state secrets grounds.

The only cases I know of that maybe involved CIA were physical searches of property of US persons, done overseas. Allowed.

33 posted on 02/06/2018 2:04:48 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

Thank you. Brennan showing up to itch on the Sunday mass news shows, cause me to wonder just who he was talking to.


34 posted on 02/06/2018 11:21:05 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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