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Rep. Jim Jordan: 'The Swamp Won' On The Budget Spending Bill
townhall ^ | Feb 11, 2018 | Timothy Meads

Posted on 02/12/2018 3:50:35 AM PST by MarvinStinson

Ohio Representative and Freedom Caucus Co-founder, Jim Jordan, blasted the recently passed budget deal on Fox News Sunday for failing limit federal spending.

Rep. Jordan told host Chris Wallace that “the swamp won and the American taxpayer lost” after Congress passed a bill that increased federal spending by $300 billion. These comments echo similar statements by Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY). On CNN this past week, Paul blasted the hypocrisy of Republicans in Congress.

“The other thing is, there's a huge hypocrisy factor. Republicans lambasted President Obama to no end for trillion-dollar deficits and now they have put forward a trillion-dollar deficit,” the Kentucky senator told CNN.

"I think the American people are going to be surprised, upset, hurt that so the so-called conservatives got elected and then turned out to be not much different than the people they were criticizing," Sen. Paul added.

Rep. Jordan repeated those sentiments today, saying the bill was “not consistent with what the American people elected us to do, not consistent with what we told them we were going to do.”

Rep. Jordan also remarked his clear frustration with GOP lawmakers inability to push forth fiscally conservative agendas. “Last time I checked, Democrats don’t have 60 votes in the Senate, either. And last time I checked there’s more Republicans in the Senate than there are Democrats, more Republicans in the House than there are Democrats, and there’s a Republican in the White House," he told Wallace.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: 115th; budget; swamp; trumpbudget

1 posted on 02/12/2018 3:50:35 AM PST by MarvinStinson
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To: MarvinStinson

Schumer did a great job of packing garbage into the budget and nobody stopped him.


2 posted on 02/12/2018 3:50:50 AM PST by MarvinStinson
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To: MarvinStinson

If baseline budgeting is still being practiced, the fix was already in, wasn’t it, Jordan?


3 posted on 02/12/2018 3:52:15 AM PST by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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To: MarvinStinson
Schumer did a great job of packing garbage into the budget and nobody stopped him.

You really think the Democrats were alone in wanting to pack the budget with garbage? This was a bipartisan effort.

4 posted on 02/12/2018 3:55:15 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: MarvinStinson

Maybe others can answer better, but I have difficulty understanding what options Republicans had, other than end the 60 vote rule (more on that in a minute), with Democrats holding out for more wasteful spending if Trump wanted his desperately needed military spending increases. I guess we could have shut the government down over it, but the Dems were itching for that, as they would have won that battle (i.e., shutting down the government because $600B is not enough for the military).

As to the 60 vote rule, it takes 51 to change it, which now means every Republican - I doubt EVERY Republican was on board for that, no matter how badly it’s needed.

Like it or not, the Dems still control spending in DC, at least until the Republicans can grow their Senate majority enough.


5 posted on 02/12/2018 4:03:58 AM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart...I just don't tell anyone)
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To: MarvinStinson

Neither party cares about the debt. Neither party cares about the burden on taxpayers.


6 posted on 02/12/2018 4:04:32 AM PST by From The Deer Stand
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To: MarvinStinson

What is being lost here is that just because the money is allocated to an agency or program does not mean that the head of program has to spend all the money.

So for example Scott Pruitt can be allocated X money, but decides the EPA only needs X-Y funds and returns the difference, or just fails to spend the money losing it at the end of the budget term.

Yes, I know that goes against the GVT mindset of spending all allocated funds before they expire, but then Trump hopefully has picked agency leads that will not do things the swamp way.


7 posted on 02/12/2018 4:47:48 AM PST by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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To: MarvinStinson

There is no question that the Ex/Import bank has been a huge seat of corruption a long time. Especially during the Obama years. Garrett’s past conclusion it was time to put a stake in it’s heart was correct as it was being run then.

Who better to have run it than someone willing to close it to stop the dirty global deals.

Rebuild it? Yes. Make it free again to do nutty stuff, not in the interest of the US? NO.


8 posted on 02/12/2018 5:06:25 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: MarvinStinson

Mitch McConnell won’t get rid of the 60 vote rule. We could get immigration through, a good healthcare bill, defund Planned Parenthood (probably can’t now without Strange due to Collins & Murkowski), etc. We could have done the tax bill differently as well. I understand the argument against it - obviously they could do a lot of damage if they are in power with it. I see that. However, I also don’t trust them not to get in power and immediately overturn the 60 vote rule if necessary.


9 posted on 02/12/2018 5:30:37 AM PST by Pinkbell
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To: MarvinStinson

Yeah, and they will continue to win with the useless nubs we have in office. We had a chance to really make government cuts but they didn’t.


10 posted on 02/12/2018 5:59:21 AM PST by New Jersey Realist ( (Be Nice To Your Kids. They Will Pick Out Your Nursing Home))
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To: MarvinStinson

It didn’t look like much of a fight to me. McConnell is at fault, I think. He gave away the store by refusing to use the 51 vote majority.


11 posted on 02/12/2018 6:38:43 AM PST by tinamina
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To: MarvinStinson

This budget should have been vetoed, and a note sent to McConell not to send up any more garbage like this or else Trump will campaign against him in 2020.


12 posted on 02/12/2018 6:39:58 AM PST by SharpRightTurn (Chuck Schumer--giving pond scum everywhere a bad name.)
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To: tinamina

When it’s important to McTurtle he goes with the 51 majority, like when confirming a SCOTUS judge for example. When he doesn’t want passage, like the wall, budget cuts etc. then it’s back to 60 vote cloture. He is royal POS. Which reflects badly on the state of KY.


13 posted on 02/12/2018 6:42:46 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: MarvinStinson

Yup. The swamp won, because there are about 5-10 actual conservatives in congress. Nothing significant has changed.


14 posted on 02/12/2018 7:32:37 AM PST by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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To: MarvinStinson

You knew the Swamp Rats would win. The point now is to minimize the damages as the good guys continue to erode the structure that makes the Swamp Rats’ inevitable victories possible. It’s a process that will take some time until the Swamp Rats’ victories are few and far between and the American Government again serves the people and not the establishmnet. The only way to turn over their advantages quickly is with a successful shooting revolution and no right-thinking human being wants that.


15 posted on 02/12/2018 7:55:45 AM PST by CommerceComet (Hillary: A unique blend of arrogance, incompetence, and corruption.)
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To: MarvinStinson

There’s more than one road to Rome. Why do people always seem to forget that when they don’t get absolutely all they want? Just because the budget has been increased doesn’t mean the money has to be spent. From what I have seen, savings are being made in all the areas in which Trump’s people have been tightening the screws. I expect that trend to continue as well as the successful efforts depriving the UN and our enemies elsewhere from continuing to try to destroy us with our own money. The MAJOR WIN is the increase in Military Spending. If we suffer a little collateral damage in order to obtain that goal, so be it.
PURISTS DRIVE ME NUTS. They would rather argue for the next year or more and continue to kick the can down the road instead of putting the issue to bed with a bill that is passed and done with. The fine tuning can come later with more of President Trump;s “pen and phone.”


16 posted on 02/12/2018 8:31:28 AM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Thank you for the level headed explanation. The heads selected by Trump have to follow his On Time and Under Budget thoughts or they will be FIRED!


17 posted on 02/12/2018 8:35:22 AM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: MarvinStinson

Porkulus One was from the ‘Rats. Porkulus Two was from the Pubbies.

It’s a lose lose situation.

5.56mm


18 posted on 02/12/2018 8:45:38 AM PST by M Kehoe
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