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We hold these truths to be self evident:

1. Two states for two peoples is so much racist blather; 2. Never willingly give a bully your lunch money. He'll take it if he can--or not. But don't ever just give it. The opposite of peace will result if you do; and 3. If there's no solution, then there's no problem (Spinoza said that). You just keep on keeping on, in that case, and improve life for everyone and anyone any way you can.

1 posted on 02/15/2018 2:45:47 PM PST by Eleutheria5
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2 posted on 02/15/2018 2:49:19 PM PST by gibsonguy
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To: Eleutheria5

Stay out of it and let Israel and the Palestinians deal with each other. There is no solution to be imposed or brokered or whatever.


3 posted on 02/15/2018 2:53:07 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Eleutheria5

I had the same reaction as the settler when I read Trump’s statement on the settlements.


4 posted on 02/15/2018 2:55:58 PM PST by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY)
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To: Eleutheria5
The US shouldn't be involved or commenting. Just look at the map -- it is entirely untenable for a hostile state to exist smack inside Israel. If I were running Israel, taking full control of the West Bank would be a priority.


8 posted on 02/15/2018 3:15:01 PM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Flag burners can go screw -- I'm mighty PROUD of that ragged old flag)
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To: Eleutheria5

Payback time for the NeoCon NeverTrumpers, perhaps.


9 posted on 02/15/2018 3:16:12 PM PST by PAR35
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I've never quite understood the use of the term "settlers" as a pejorative. America is a nation built on the labor of settlers. I guess we're beyond the point where it has any meaning. Settlers implying productive labor, it's easier to focus on immigrants. Which many settlers were as well. In any case, the only governing document in the case of today's Israeli settlers is the British Mandate, incorporated by the UN, which states Jews can settle anywhere between the river and the sea. Jordan having been taken from them and given to the Hashemites in 1923. Despite that, no new settlements of any consequence in decades. In fairness, I doubt President Trump knows much about that aspect of the issue. I wouldn't lose much sleep over it. Though the construction of a Judenrein state really isn't something the US should be supporting. Shouldn't have supported it in Gaza or Iraq either. Smart or not, there were Jews who wanted to stay (Gaza) and return and start business' (Iraq). We shouldn't have supported the ban.

16 posted on 02/15/2018 5:19:30 PM PST by SJackson (The easiest way to find something lost around the house is to buy a replacement)
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To: Eleutheria5

The disease that is, Liberalism - in all it’s forms, is quite an amazing thing. When you can’t get your way, your run to someone that can fix the problem for you. This may be in the form of taking bakers to court or suing over who can marry who, up to boycotts, protests and riots/violence.

We do not have a dog in this fight. Never have. Never will. All we have are 2 entities. We have to pick one, whose belief system most closely mirrors ours and befriend and support that one. That is it. We do not need to do anything more. In this case, Israel is the one and always has been. The USA has no right to tell them or try to convince them to build or not build anywhere. There problem, let them deal with it. The Palestinians don’t like the answer they get form the Israeli’s so they cry to the US and the UN. Let ‘em cry until they can start behaving like adults


23 posted on 02/15/2018 9:06:10 PM PST by qaz123
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To: Eleutheria5

“The settlements in Judea and Samaria — the heart of the State of Israel — are preventing the gates of Islamic terror from bursting wide-open and flooding Western civilization with its evil plans for death and destruction!”

What a laughable lie. We have a problem with Muslim terrorism in the West ONLY because of Muslim immigration.


28 posted on 02/16/2018 11:16:40 AM PST by WatchungEagle
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