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Florida Teacher of the Year's gun violence post goes viral after school shooting
F ^ | Feburary 16,2018 | By Caleb Parke

Posted on 02/16/2018 1:39:08 PM PST by Hojczyk

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To: OttawaFreeper; All

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I recall not long after what happened in Sandy Hook that a meme came out (one of my favourite pro gun ones) that had the caption “Semi auto rifles have been available for more than 100 years”, with images of vintage gun ads. Then at the bottom it said “What has changed”, with images of the “Hollywood” sign and screencaps from graphic and violent movies and video games.
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Sorry, but there’s still the disconnect. Even ~100 yrs. ago, you had the news hawking about Bonnie & Clyde, even further bad Billy ‘the Kid’, etc.

Ask any ‘gamer’ or child, and they’ll tell you outright “This is a GAME.” Physics alone will tell anyone this ISN’T the ‘real world’.

Violence has always been the human condition (same as oppression and even slavery). But the culture, the CULTURE.....there’s the $1M question.

Over-grown govt that families require BOTH to work to survive. Taxes @ 50%+. The ‘ideal’ of the 50’s, so far out of reach to the typical Citizen as to be *RICH*.

The one variable: G-O-V-T.


61 posted on 02/16/2018 5:12:05 PM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: KC_for_Freedom; relictele; Hojczyk; All

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I believe the time has come for public schools to design and administer a security plan. If they do not, then close the school and let a charter school have the land.

The plan needs to include:

1. Access limitation, and a patrol to cover the fence where access could be breached.
2. ID checking. I taught for two years at a school and I was given an ID but it was never asked to show it, and I walked into the school from the parking lot via one of 5 entrances (with many more in the rear of the building.)
3. An armed patrol at each point where IDs are checked for entrance to the school. This is meant to include portables where a fence must enclose them as well.
4. Establish a program where the personnel who are armed are regularly trained (monthly at a minimum) and include teachers who wish to volunteer for the training. People in this program will be allowed to concealed carry on campus and will not be identified to the student body— identification to the rest of the staff is contingent on how willing the staff is to keep this information secret.
5. Regular drills need to be established to make emergency calls to the local police and have the police respond quickly.
6. Students need to have a class in personnel safety where they learn how to protect themselves in their facility and how to not be defenseless in the face of a potential shooter.
I have probably left some things out.
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The *ONLY* plan is to re-enable the Free Market.

- Terminate teachers unions and the DoEd
- Terminate any/all property taxes
- Parent(s)\Guardian(s) pay for the education of their own brood\charges

Given:
- Education facilities can hire WHOM they wish
- Facilities are graded against BASELINES (3 R’s and nothing more)
- ‘Graduation’ should require no more than 8 yrs. of formal education.

Which would:
- Open schools of ‘higher’ learning: vocational, arts, music, etc.
- Enable biz to sponsor said ‘higher education’ (journey-men, apprentices, etc.) IE: CONTRACTS of ‘yrs. service for each X $ spent). [have to weigh the 13th here]

....sure I got some other points, but getting long in the tooth, as it were.


62 posted on 02/16/2018 5:21:01 PM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: tired&retired

If we could put them in hospitals instead of drugging them, they would be safer and so would everyone else. And there would be fewer of these incidents.

We’e got to stop drugging kids if they show the slightest sign of rambunctiousness, or even ADD.


63 posted on 02/16/2018 9:39:53 PM PST by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: Myrddin

Yes, look at the eyes. They all seem to have that same insane, strung-out look.


64 posted on 02/16/2018 9:40:49 PM PST by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: Hojczyk

When I was a kid the worst problem at our school was kids chewing gum in class...

The culture’s falling apart - chaos is encroaching - darkness winning. That’s the real problem. It’s not guns...


65 posted on 02/16/2018 9:57:13 PM PST by GOPJ (The 'dead vote' is a byproduct of fraud that votes the people who don't show up.)
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To: TBP

And adults as soon as they experience depression.

Depression is a symptom.


66 posted on 02/17/2018 3:06:46 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: i_robot73

I agree, during my teaching years, I always wanted to be able to contract for my services on an annual basis and drop the Union.


67 posted on 02/17/2018 9:44:06 AM PST by KC_for_Freedom (Trump has one good idea after the other.)
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To: i_robot73

I agree, during my teaching years, I always wanted to be able to contract for my services on an annual basis and drop the Union.


68 posted on 02/17/2018 9:44:06 AM PST by KC_for_Freedom (Trump has one good idea after the other.)
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To: i_robot73
This isn't addressed to any individual, just a generality:

It's the culture, stupid.

Or, It's the stupid culture.

It took us 50 years to get here. I hope it doesn't take 50 years to get back.

69 posted on 02/17/2018 12:04:56 PM PST by AZLiberty ("If we believe in absurdities, we commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: PJBankard
She nailed it with exception to the violent video games. Violence in video games is only relevant when morals and parental guidance are adrift in the child’s development.

Seeing as your qualifier is EXACTLY what she's complaining about, your exception of video gaming is nonsensical.

Video games do, in fact, inculcate a sophisticated strategic mindset that is contrary to civil society when possessed by a person who is morally neutered and untouched by life experience: just like these kids.

Furthermore, when these kids are in "gamer mode," the abilities and decision tree hard wired into their nervous systems from years of practice is frightening.

70 posted on 02/17/2018 12:24:58 PM PST by papertyger (Bulverism: it's not just for liberals anymore.)
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To: Hojczyk

true.


71 posted on 02/17/2018 3:07:55 PM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: Hojczyk

THIS could be an armed teacher. Most of them, not so much.


72 posted on 02/17/2018 3:31:06 PM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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