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“Ottoman Empire was launching similar attacks during its fall”
ANF News (Stockholm) ^ | Saturday, 17 Feb 2018, 00:10 | ANF - MURAT KUSEYRİ (STOCKHOLM)

Posted on 02/17/2018 6:08:02 AM PST by Texas Fossil

Speaking about Turkey's invasion attack on Afrin, Syriac journalist Jacob Mirza said that the Ottoman Empire launched similar kind of attacks before its fall.

In an interview with ANF Turkish service, Jacob Mirza, a prominent Syriac journalist working for Suroyo TV, criticized Turkish attack on Afrin and said that the main reason behind the attack is Erdogan's loss of power.

"Despite all the oppression, the arrest of the opponents and critics of the regime, Erdogan cannot stand in front of the popular opposition. Even the polls of Erdogan show that he won't win the elections in 2019" Mirza said.

According to Mirza, Erdogan launched the attack on Afrin to get the votes of nationalists and compared the actions of Erdogan with the actions of Ottoman Empire at the time of its fall.

Mirza also defended that the attacks on Afrin will make the Syrian crisis worse and polarize the society in Turkey.

"Now Kurds are not Kurds of the past. Syriac people are not like old Syriacs and Arab people are not like old Arabs. Those people know that peace will come only if they reach an agreement. In the old times, Turkey did provoke those people against each other. People of the Middle East didn't forget about this" Mirza said.

Mirza also added that the Syriac people consider the attack on Afrin as an attack on them and they are showing reaction to Erdogan just as they showed reaction to the perpetrators of 1915 genocide.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Syria
KEYWORDS: attack; efrin; erdogan; kurdistan; receptayyiperdogan; syriac; turkey
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U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson met with Erdogan the Islamist President of Turkey on Thursday and Friday. The meeting was evidently very candid. It comprised of only 3 people. Erdogan, one of his officials who acted as interpreter, and Rex Tillerson. No room for misunderstandings. Turkish Associated Press release said it yielded some promising progress to extending US and Turkish relations.

But, 1 day after, this is reported:

https://twitter.com/abdbozkurt/status/964820760232685568

A day after meeting with US @StateDept Secretary Rex Tillerson for 3 hours, #Erdogan tells his supporters that #Turkey won't forget lies, open & secret betrayals

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The article I posted expresses what I feel about the future of Turkey under Erdogan. The Kemalists are still an internal threat to him, and they understand this.

The Kurds and their local Arab and Syriac allies are being unified against this common enemy. Kurds everywhere are moving closer to thinking in unity.

We shall soon see where this is really going.

1 posted on 02/17/2018 6:08:02 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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2 posted on 02/17/2018 6:09:47 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

“” “” The article I posted expresses what I feel about the future of Turkey under Erdogan. The Kemalists are still an internal threat to him, and they understand this.”” “”

You are kidding, yes? What kemalists? If you want to understand a modern day kemalists’ stand on Islam just look and Repuicans’ stand on political correctness.
That’s the same thing.


3 posted on 02/17/2018 6:21:38 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

Look, Kemalists are not much better than Erdgoan. They from the beginning practiced massacre, genocide and ethnic cleansing.

But they are not Islamists. They don’t want to take Turkey back to 700.


4 posted on 02/17/2018 6:31:42 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

No better or not is not a critical point. They are gutless and nowhere to be seen.


5 posted on 02/17/2018 6:34:16 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: Texas Fossil

The Turks ought to behave better, in a region where among all the peoples on earth there, they, the Turks, are more newcomers than everyone else - later than the Arabs, the Syrians, the Greeks, other long time peoples of Anatolia, the Armenians and most of all the Kurds.

Maybe that’s why they have always had to dominate by military means. They are naturally insecure as to their place in the world. The Kurds have been in the area at least as long as the Jews. The Turks? Only since about 1300 A.D.


6 posted on 02/17/2018 6:34:47 AM PST by Wuli
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To: NorseViking

“gutless”

I doubt that. Always before they planned well before a Coup took place. They did this many times, always succeeded.

The last one was sloppy, I don’t think the Kemalist planned it.


7 posted on 02/17/2018 6:38:01 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

“” “” The last one was sloppy, I don’t think the Kemalist planned it.”” “”

Do not ignore Erdogan cleaning the military and judiciary from ‘unreliable element’ for years.


8 posted on 02/17/2018 6:39:53 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: Texas Fossil

Yeah, the Kemalists played real nice with the ethnic Greek population of Anatolia.


9 posted on 02/17/2018 6:43:13 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: Tallguy

Anatolyan rednecks are currently Erdogan’s big time supporters.


10 posted on 02/17/2018 6:46:01 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

Similar process in Iran — the population of the countryside are the Ayatollas’ biggest supporters.


11 posted on 02/17/2018 6:56:03 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: Texas Fossil

I have to ask, what ill informed movement allowed Turkey into NATO?
Turkey needs to be erased from that equation as it is EVERYTHING antithetical to the spine of NATO.


12 posted on 02/17/2018 6:59:24 AM PST by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: Texas Fossil
Friendly visit...


13 posted on 02/17/2018 7:15:25 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: himno hero

They have been in NATO since 1952.

I don’t know the early history of their membership.

Turkey was always guilty of extreme abuse of minorities. I’m not sure it was well understood outside Turkey and it was never admitted.

I have no answer for your question.


14 posted on 02/17/2018 7:19:02 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

I was aware of their admission, however the whole premise of islam is antithetical to western civilization.
Was this the beginning of recent formalized lie that islam is a “religion” and not a political movement masquerading as a religion.

Does the Hells Angels have a “religion” stature yet???


15 posted on 02/17/2018 7:33:14 AM PST by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: Texas Fossil
When the British told Truman that they could no longer help the anti-Communist side in the Greek Civil War, Truman went to Congress and asked for money for both Greece and Turkey--to avert Communist victories.

During the Cold War Turkey was a reliable ally against the USSR because they were anti-Russian...the old "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" scenario. They sent troops to Korea during the Korean War...but they also took advantage of our need for their membership in NATO to invade Cyprus in 1974 and occupy 40% of the island.

16 posted on 02/17/2018 8:02:18 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

In hindsight, I would have let the Soviets have Turkey.


17 posted on 02/17/2018 8:03:54 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Verginius Rufus

Thank you for your perspective. Things change over time and it is hard to sense them unless you are close to the region.


18 posted on 02/17/2018 8:19:04 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Wuli
The Ottomans began in 1300 but most of Asia Minor was overrun by the Seljuk Turks after their victory in the battle of Manzikert in 1071. The Byzantine Empire was able to regain control of some of western Asia Minor but most of it remained under Turkish control from then on.

Probably the actual Turks from central Asia were a minority--just numerous enough to impose their language. I suspect that DNA studies would show that the current Turkish population is largely descended from the populations there in antiquity--Hittites, Luwians, Lydians, Phrygians, Galatians, etc., who had become Hellenized and Christianized during the Middle Ages. Until the ill-fated Greek invasion in the early 1920s there was a sizeable Greek minority.

Speros Vryonis, Jr., wrote a scholarly book entitled The Decline of Medieval Hellenism in Asia Minor and the Process of Islamization from the Eleventh to the Fifteenth Century (1971). I read it a long time ago and don't remember the details. Vryonis is a Greek-American, now 89 years old.

Vryonis also wrote a book called Mechanism of Catastrophe: The Turkish Pogrom of September 6-7, 1955, and the Destruction of the Greek Community of Istanbul (2005). The title speaks for itself.

19 posted on 02/17/2018 8:20:22 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: dfwgator

“” “” In hindsight, I would have let the Soviets have Turkey.”” “”

The biggest mystery of all is how the Brits persuaded Stalin not to gobble Iran at the time.


20 posted on 02/17/2018 11:29:49 AM PST by NorseViking
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