Posted on 02/17/2018 10:22:57 AM PST by RoosterRedux
After 18 months of Russia, Russia, Russia, we finally meet a cast of real Russians. But par for the convoluted course, they were pretending to be Americans.
The indictments obtained by special counsel Robert Mueller on Vladimir Putin’s attempts to create discord in the 2016 election and eventually support Donald Trump are important both for what they say and what they don’t say.
They offer huge victories for Trump — and thus more defeats for Hillary Clinton — but they don’t close the books on everything about 2016.
The very good news for the president is that the indictments are firm in saying that any Americans contacted by the 13 charged Russians, including Trump campaign associates, did not know they were dealing with Russians.
The indictments also state forcefully that despite their social media efforts, which ranged from creative to clumsy, the Russians had no impact on the election results.
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
“Obstruction” for firing Comey !?
Bu-wa-ha-haaa !!!
That is funnier than the NY Post`s story on vagina wigs :
https://nypost.com/2018/02/16/these-nyfw-vagina-wigs-speak-for-themselves/
When will they shut this FARCICAL SHAM down?? Way over due.
“When will they shut this FARCICAL SHAM down?? Way over due.”
Rosenweasel made sure it would never end. Unlimited budget, unlimited charter, no sunset. In other words it doesn’t end until they “get the goods” on Trump and he’s driven from office.
This is a diversion as the corrupt news media and the democrat party and Mueller want to cover up the Clintons and obama crimes.
So is it the actions that were illegal or is it the used of fake identities.
I can imagine the amount of foreign influence and miney that goes into ethnic TV and radio broadcasting. Not to forget the number or non US citizens who protest in US cities when the topic of illegal immigration comes up. Also the likelihood of direct effect of non-Citizens actually voting in our election. Which seems like a real case of collusion related to the political party that works so hard to prevent it.
It would be nice if the congress did more to stop the voter fraud that actually occurs instead of some creative propaganda activities by Russians to fool the sheepish voters who can't be bothered by a little due diligence.
Didn’t Obama hint that illegals could vote without fear of legal consequences?
Any Russian efforts on social media were easily overwhelmed by the anti-Trump forces in social media, the MSM, and Hollywood, which acted as CONSCIOUS wings of the Hillary campaign. Conservative sites like Breitbart and The Federalist were (and are) inundated by anti-Trump trolls, some of them possibly/probably paid agents of Hillary and/or Soros and/or David Brock, or even foreign governments.
It wasn’t a hint ... it was a statement of policy ...
It was a statement that offered a certain favorable policy for a vote. It had broader implications as well.
Hussein allowed them into the country? How did that happen?
A President can not “obstruct justice” by firing the director of the FBI for any reason - even if he were the subject of an investigation. It would be up to congress to investigate or appoint a special counsel to investigate. He has the constitutional and legal authority fire any appointed official )per none other than Alan Dershowitz - hardly a Trump fan, but certainly a well versed legal mind) so the premise that an illegal act would have occurred is a silly statement without merit.
However, let’s play along for a second with the reasoning and arguments of the left. The FBI was conducting surveillance of Carter Page and using him as a Trojan horse they were allegedly able to listen in on numerous Trump associates and monitor communications within Trump tower itself. The reason for this FISA warrant was PROBABLE CAUSE (yes, they need this) that Page was a Russian operative. By all accounts, the FISA warrant was primarily based on a ridiculous dossier, a planted story in the media by the author of the dossier, and it was executed by a merry band of partisans who clearly had questionable objectivity AND made material omissions in their presentation to the court of REQUIRED information known to them at the time of the initial presentation and the three renewal request. Ad nauseam and you all know the story.......
Considering this - Page has not been charged, arrested, and is not even leaked to be a Russian spy any more so the TARGET of the clearly suspect investigation is walking free despite having his life monitored with a rectal exam for one year by the most powerful intelligence services in the world.
Logically, we must conclude that for Trump or his associates to be charged with something there must be some evidence of wrongdoing that was gathered during their investigation. Considering that everything even remotely critical of Trump has been leaked by the investigative team this appears doubtful at this point. There is no evidence of collusion, so therefore there could be no obstruction using their own argument and combining it with logic.
Even if there were some wrongdoing, the “fruit of the poisonous tree” doctrine would make such evidence inadmissible in a court of law. If they charged any person who was monitored with any crime even remotely related to what now appears to be ILLEGAL monitoring based on the FISA court application, all of this would come out and the legal precedent is ironclad. They would walk (as I fully expect Flynn to do) and the investigators themselves would face censure, a loss of license for the lawyers among them, and potentially criminal charges themselves.
This is the quandary the special counsel now faces.... is there any way to separate the possible allegations from the pile of steaming poop known as the FISA warrant and investigating team? I don’t see it. On top of this, per their own suggestion of obstruction, the “crime” was firing Comey so it will come down to Comey’s word (who leaked classified information, administered an investigation full of bias against the President, ridiculously exceeded his authority and tanked an investigation into the emails, and signed off on a fraudulent warrant) against that of the President. Labels mean something to the media (i.e., Trump is mean). However in a criminal proceeding, all of this will come out about Comey and it reflects on his truthfulness and objectivity. A very bad spot for him to be in absent those who suddenly love him on CNN.
To make matters worse, and this is the one thing I have never understood from day 1 - Mueller, Rosenstein, and Comey are all supposedly friends who worked closely together. This is a glaring conflict of interest among the principles arrayed against the President. On top of that, Mueller’s main investigative team also have a glaring list of reasons they are conflicted as well in a politicized investigation.
In summary, while it would be chaotic and breathless within our own media. Any actions against the President would allow all of what I just wrote, and much more, to be presented in a court of law. In fact, I would go so far to say that the “defense” case in such an action might be 20 times larger than the prosecution case and this is all before the OIG investigation is released next month. The trial would take on the appearance of a reverse prosecution as the defense would be able to lay out what seems to be a very compelling case against the prosecution and their witnesses for..... wait for it...... obstruction of justice.
It is for these reasons (and more) that I think the indictments of Russians yesterday was the best candle they can put on a crap cake. They all know what I wrote above is true and ironically, the longer this investigation drags out the more damaging the information about THEM becomes.
The question now becomes when does Rosenstein pull the plug on the special counsel? If, absent any evidence of collusion, he allows this to drag on to the mid-terms we can fairly conclude politics still rule the day. If he pulls the plug now it removes what the left views as their primary hope (much as many on the right viewed the birth certificate) to get rid of the President, but it at least shows a measure of independence.
Trump is holding all the best cards right now from where I am sitting. No collusion and the accusation is based upon criminal acts by the investigators to also include leaking and unmasking - therefore, no obstruction despite the lack of legal basis for such a charge. He can also unleash another special counsel or two on the FISA mess, the email investigation, Uranium 1, the Clinton foundation, and the LEAKS by Comey of his own memos and other information to a person outside government and the media. On top of this, he can request and DECLASSIFY the emails we now know exist between the previous President and Clinton using pseudonyms and non-secure servers.
The opposition are looking for an exit strategy. Any “there that is there” is on them and not Trump.
The Russian indictments are a sign of desperation on Mueller’s part?
I only wish I could unsee that.
The indictments don’t close the books on everything about 2016 because Muller is not about truth,
justice and the American way.......he just loves cashing those huge US govt checks and will do
anything to keep the tax dollars flowing into his pocket.
BTW, good point about how the Ruskis got here.
Puts Obama in the immigration loop......and biting back bigtime.
Misappropriation of govt funding. Shut it down.
subterfuge
oh my... who would have thought that concept had a history
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