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Incredible but true factors that led to the Florida Shooting
Beebuster2000 News Service | februrary 17,2018 | beebuster2000

Posted on 02/17/2018 1:40:14 PM PST by beebuster2000

1-Was expelled from School after being identified as a potential threat and found with ammunition in his backpack.The police were not called because in Broward County liberals have severed the school-jail pipeline by forbidding reports to police.

2-Apparantly the gun was obtained from a gun safe in a friends house. The safe was a key entry model, the owner had what he thought was the only key. It wasnt.

comment here: key entry gun stafes are the stupidest thing you can do. That is why the expensive ones are combination lock.The owner of the gun should go to jail.

3-The FBI had one soft lead and one really solid lead but failed to follow up. "See something-say something" revealed to be a total joke.

I have to say this: the FBI was all booked up trying to get Hillary elected and then on to trying to get Trump impeached to do even basic investigative work.

4-The Police: 30+ visits. Unable to connect the dots that a mentally disturbed repeat repeat belligerent is stockpiling guns. No one apparantly helped them connect the dots. You may have read today that an almost identical situation was halted in Vermont. There, the community called the State Police. They acted.

5-The community and the neighborhood: People knew he was mentally ill, on meds, and stockpiling weapons. Aside from the one call to the FBI, no one was effective in intervention, especially School officials, but also neighbors.

6-the Meds. if it turns out to be true that he was on or recently stopped taking anti-psychotic meds, then that would be consistent with almost all similar school shootings. violent behavior, depression , suicide are all label listed side effects.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: nicholascruz
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1 posted on 02/17/2018 1:40:14 PM PST by beebuster2000
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Point #2 appears to be patently false. The suspect was the owner of the AR-15, and he was allowed to keep the weapon by the couple he was staying with, whose last name is "Snead". I saw this stated in an interview with Mr. Snead himself, if I'm not mistaken. So this particular point is pure propaganda. The other points seem correct...
2 posted on 02/17/2018 1:45:12 PM PST by sargon ("If the President doesn't drain the Swamp, the Swamp will drain the President.")
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Forgot to add: School is a “gun free zone”.

How did that work out?


3 posted on 02/17/2018 1:45:36 PM PST by beebuster2000
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Parents and families of the 17 dead in Parkland, Florida Read This:

PRESS RELEASE
ENDING THE SCHOOL TO PRISON PIPELINE IN FLORIDA
NOVEMBER 5, 2013
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The NAACP has brokered a groundbreaking collaborative agreement on school discipline with Broward County Public Schools, law enforcement and its community partners. The agreement will serve as a model for school districts nationwide that aim to end the school to prison pipeline wreaking havoc in communities of color.

The collaborative agreement establishes proven alternatives to arrest for misdemeanor infractions by students that include common sense approaches such as counseling and mentorship. The historic agreement leverages the support of Broward County Public Schools (BCPS) and local law enforcement by reducing student suspensions, expulsions and arrests, while maintaining safe learning environments for students.

The agreement highlights the role of school officials in determining when student infractions warrant an arrest versus school disciplinary measures, particularly for minor misbehavior/offenses. The collaborative agreement is part of the national movement to end the schoolhouse to jailhouse pipeline.

Chairman of the NAACP National Board of Directors Roslyn M. Brock praised the new agreement:

This comprehensive agreement changes the future of education in Broward County and sets the stage for a revolution nationwide. I commend our Florida leaders for bringing all of the parties together to shutdown the school to prison pipeline.

From Adora Obi Nweze, President of the NAACP Florida State Conference:

We now have the foundation to save a generation of youth of color from the criminal justice system. This would not be possible without the leadership of our Ft Lauderdale/ Broward Branch.

From Hilary O. Shelton, NAACP Washington Bureau Director and Sr. VP of Policy and Advocacy:

I applaud the efforts of NAACP Broward County President Marsha Ellison, School Superintendent Robert Runcie, Broward County law enforcement and all of the community partners involved in this effort for taking a stand against overly severe disciplinary policies the criminalize students for behavioral issues normally addressed by a school administrator. Arrests do not make schools safer. This agreement to embrace alternatives to police intervention will be the prototype for ending the school to prison pipeline in every Florida school district and school districts across the nation.

From Dr. Niaz Kasravi, Criminal Justice Director for the NAACP:

Too often, too many children in this country unnecessarily lose learning time and, too often, get criminalized for routine adolescent misbehavior. Today’s groundbreaking collaborative agreement will go a long way in putting a stop to the destructive pipeline that funnels children from school into prison and alters the trajectory of their lives forever. The NAACP hopes law enforcement and educators nationwide will work with their communities to adopt similar measures.

From Evans Moore, Interim Education Director for the NAACP:

Broward County Public Schools should be hailed as a leader for ending its zero tolerance disciplinary policy that has become too common over the past two decades in school districts across the country. Those policies have failed to improve the disciplinary climate and culture of schools. Today’s historic collaborative agreement sends a message to school districts across the country that Broward County Public Schools want to see its students, particularly those of color, thrive.

From Kevin Myles, Southeast Regional Director for the NAACP:

The NAACP, Broward Country Public Schools and all of the community partners involved in this groundbreaking agreement have taken important steps to end the overly harsh school disciplinary policies that lands students in the criminal justice system. Starting today, Broward County students will achieve higher heights as we close the school to prison pipeline.


4 posted on 02/17/2018 1:46:32 PM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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Update: Mr Snead, in the interview, said that the gun was kept locked in a gun safe, but that Nikolas Cruz (the suspect) did have a key...
5 posted on 02/17/2018 1:46:46 PM PST by sargon ("If the President doesn't drain the Swamp, the Swamp will drain the President.")
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disagree with a few points. first of all, reports I have read state that he bought the gun. therefore it was NOT his neighbor’s. secondly, what guns was he ‘stockpiling’? I heard that he only had the one. what other guns did he own?


6 posted on 02/17/2018 1:47:21 PM PST by camle (keep and open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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NOTE TO ADMINS: This post is HARDLY worthy of “Breaking News”.


7 posted on 02/17/2018 1:48:20 PM PST by 2harddrive
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isn’t this why Saint Trayvon was not in jail?....after the school found STOLEN jewelry in his backpack, they did not report him to the police, although IIRC they did give the cops the jewelry....


8 posted on 02/17/2018 1:51:07 PM PST by cherry
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Right, this article is confusing where on one hand they are saying he was stockpiling weapons, and on the other hand he stole his friend’s parents gun from a gun safe. So which is it?


9 posted on 02/17/2018 1:52:34 PM PST by Blue Highway
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I had read where the owner made the guy keep the gun in the safe - but the guy had a key to it.

Growing up our family kept our guns in a “locked” cabinet that had cheap, decrative mesh on the front - it wouldn’t keep anybody out. And the little key to the flimsy lock was under a book on the shelf. That was in my bedroom once my brother left home - I was about 10.

Weird - I never did think about shooting anybody. I did fantasize about rigging up bombs against a bully at school. But it never occurred to me to use a gun! I suppose it was because I knew what damage a gun could do because I had been around them and hunting. But a “bomb” - that was still cartoon stuff. Perhaps similar to some guy that has only shot at paper with a real gun, or at “cartoon” characters on a video game.


10 posted on 02/17/2018 1:53:37 PM PST by 21twelve
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The guy had one gun - his own that he had purchased awhile ago. The homeowner made him keep it in the family safe - and gave the guy a key so he could get to his gun.


11 posted on 02/17/2018 1:55:12 PM PST by 21twelve
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Re#1 - Isn’t that obstruction of justice by school board and staff? To know about a crime and deliberately NOT report it? Moreso, isn’t it a conspiracy to make it formal county-wide policy? Teachers should teach, but they’re leftist who want to play fairytale social workers. It’s not them to determine how a “jail pipiline” works or does not work.


12 posted on 02/17/2018 1:55:39 PM PST by Marchmain (What would Mary do?)
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one look at the dude you could tell he was mental, why wasn’t he in some hospital?


13 posted on 02/17/2018 1:56:36 PM PST by Joe Miner
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Forgot to add: School is a “gun free zone”.

We should henceforth refer to these as Joe Biden gun free zones.

He introduced the legislation in 1990 for this mess.

14 posted on 02/17/2018 1:59:01 PM PST by ealgeone
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guns shown in pics of his “stockpile:

pistols, bolt action rifle, shotguns. scroll down for the pic

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5393601/Instagram-school-shooters-guns-violence-hurting-animals.html


15 posted on 02/17/2018 2:00:11 PM PST by beebuster2000
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"The owner of the gun should go to jail"

Here's where it runs off the rails for me.

The owner had secured the weapon in a keyed security cabinet. Unbeknownst to him someone had duplicated his key. The gun was, according to my reading of this event and under these circumstances, technically "stolen".

I don't agree to throwing someone in the slammer for having their gun swiped.

16 posted on 02/17/2018 2:01:49 PM PST by skimbell
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read my post again please. i dont say the gun was his neighbors, i say he obtained it from the gun safe of the neighbor, the neighbor is on record saying he thought he had the only key.
this is a leap, but i bet the neighbor know that Cruz was unstable and kept his AR locked up, or so he thought. mistake in a key entry safe.


17 posted on 02/17/2018 2:02:11 PM PST by beebuster2000
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

I hope that Broward County Public Schools and the NAACP are sued into oblivion over this.

There is a press report that a high school administrator recommended a risk assessment on Cruz to the BCPS Board in January 2017. But it was never done. Its likely because of ending the school to prison pipeline that prevented Board doing the assessment including reaching out to law enforcement to gather information on Cruz.

Another $hithole liberal policy claims lives.


18 posted on 02/17/2018 2:03:30 PM PST by TMA62 (Al Sharpton - The North Korea of race relations)
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To: skimbell

the key wasnt duplicated. there were two keys and the owner failed to secure the second key. whats the difference between that and leaving the safe unlocked?

if boneheads fail to secure their firearms the rest of us will lose our right to own them. just my view.


19 posted on 02/17/2018 2:04:07 PM PST by beebuster2000
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The essential point is a failure of gov’t at every step of the way.

the answer to gov’t incompetance is not more gov’t


20 posted on 02/17/2018 2:12:20 PM PST by vooch (America First Drain the Swamp)
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