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To: familyop
Here is the problem with the "mental health" angle to "gun control.

Just who is to say who is "mentally ill"?

Obama and his criminal administration (and House and Senate Democrats) said that heroic war veterans who sought counseling for PTSD were "mentally ill" and should be denied their Constitutional rights.

Who are we to rely on? "Mental Health Experts"? What a joke. These same "experts" tell us that a 5 year old boy who is being coached by his sick parents into "becoming a girl" are all mentally "healthy."

Social Security recipients who needed financial help managing their affairs had their gun rights taken away.

Is a man who took anti anxiety medication for a time now "mentally ill"? What about someone who suffers from insomnia? What about someone who is a recovering alcoholic, but has been sober for 20 years?

The slippery slope here is gargantuan.

38 posted on 02/23/2018 3:28:35 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: SkyPilot
You have hit the nail on the head. Liberals always seize on an opportunity to subvert a well meaning law to advance their perverted ideology!!!
40 posted on 02/23/2018 3:31:00 AM PST by ontap
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To: SkyPilot

They’re good questions.

Every Americans wants guns to be kept out of the hands of mentally ill/unstable people.

At the same you have to have due process to make sure no one is arbitrarily deprived of their RKBA and to get it back should they be able to function in society again.

Its a complicated issue and there’s no quick and simple solution to this problem. That’s why we must make sure it does what its meant to do.

And if not, then leave things as they are.


44 posted on 02/23/2018 3:39:08 AM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Forever))
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To: SkyPilot

I think this killer was Autistic.
The Sandy Hook shooter was too.
Its a weird situation .


45 posted on 02/23/2018 3:40:56 AM PST by ncalburt
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To: SkyPilot

You have hit the nail on the head. If we give people the right to restrict gun ownership using an inexact standard “mental health” the decisions will be agenda driven and not evidence based. Add to that that mental healthcare practitioners are among the most liberal fringe thinkers and we have a recipe for chaos. This aspect could be better handled in a background check looking for hospitalizations and current psychotropic medications or by police as followup on interactions.

The problem is that individual rights and community saftey are potentially in conflict. A compromise will still leave both sides angry. We need to thread the needle, err towards Freedom and arm our schools.


62 posted on 02/23/2018 5:07:12 AM PST by JayGalt (Let Trump Be Trump)
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To: SkyPilot

In communist countries, political dissenters were (and are) frequently diagnosed as mentally ill for that reason and locked up in mental hospitals.

I’m sure their fellow travelers here consider the desire to own a gun a mental illness in itself.


63 posted on 02/23/2018 5:10:25 AM PST by The Pack Knight
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To: SkyPilot

This is argument is how the ACLU and the ABA has frozen out the professional community from isolating the seriously mentally ill and the deranged.

The Cruz guy was a known danger to others and nothing was done.


81 posted on 02/23/2018 11:02:40 AM PST by blackberry1
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To: SkyPilot

“Just who is to say who is Mentally Ill”?

This is argument is how the ACLU and the ABA has frozen out the professional community from isolating the seriously mentally ill and the deranged.

The Cruz guy was a known danger to others and nothing was done.


82 posted on 02/23/2018 11:05:56 AM PST by blackberry1
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