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Sources: Coral Springs police upset at some [3 more] Broward deputies for not entering school
MSN ^ | 2-23-18 | Gerald Herbert

Posted on 02/23/2018 2:32:38 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants

When Coral Springs police officers arrived at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, on February 14 in the midst of the school shooting crisis, many officers were surprised to find not only that Broward County Sheriff's Deputy Scot Peterson, the armed school resource officer, had not entered the building, but that three other Broward County Sheriff's deputies were also outside the school and had not entered, Coral Springs sources tell CNN. The deputies had their pistols drawn and were behind their vehicles, the sources said, and not one of them had gone into the school.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; broward; browardcounty; coralsprings; deputy; donutwatch; florida; leo; nra; parkland; police; scotpeterson; scottisrael; secondamendment
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I completely understand the single cop with a pistol, when he recognized a semi-auto rifle with dozens of rounds fired, knowing he was outmatched.

But FOUR of them?

I have issue with that. Four had a plausible chance to take him out, coming from different approaches and angles.

The ONE cop would have been a suicide mission with near zero chance.


101 posted on 02/23/2018 4:46:20 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Bryanw92
Not really true. They go in immediately when the whole SWAT team arrives. And a supervisor. And the proper perimeter is established to make sure that the shooter can’t escape. I have a cop in my family and he told me that they aren’t John McClane. They aren’t even the donut cop outside.

These are local policies. I'm certain (but have no time to look for the article now) that the Sheriff stated when suspending Peterson that policy was to immediately confront the shooter. Which he didn't. If you read the article you'll see that the Coral Springs police, different department and policies, entered the building. Joined by a Sunrise policeman, and two newly arrived Broward deputies. While others sheltered outside. My personal opinion, I think the sheriff lied about policy. The school deputy and the first arriving on the scene sheltered, that doesn't sound like a confront the shooter policy. And these policies aren't formulated to save the victims. Kudus to Coral Springs. I'll also note that as to an escape proof perimeter, Broward failed. Not criticizing the LEO in your family or his departments policies, thought I might disagree in many circumstances. But I think the Broward people are lying through their teeth.

Related, I realize police aren't military, but what happened to initiative. Is their no room for that in many departments policies.

102 posted on 02/23/2018 4:46:28 PM PST by SJackson (The easiest way to find something lost around the house is to buy a replacement)
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To: ncalburt

Which includes a large chunk of the military.


103 posted on 02/23/2018 4:49:47 PM PST by tbw2
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To: ncalburt

If you cant be trusted to own a gun until your 21 then you should’t vote either....isnt that right Rick Scott?


104 posted on 02/23/2018 4:52:43 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: Bryanw92

Exactly. In any active crime scene the first job is to secure the perimeter and then wait for proper backup. People are naive to think a cop is going to slap on his bullet proof vest, and enter a scene where there is an active shooter.


105 posted on 02/23/2018 4:59:58 PM PST by LukeL
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To: Mariner
I completely understand the single cop with a pistol, when he recognized a semi-auto rifle with dozens of rounds fired, knowing he was outmatched.

You are correct in a typical outdoor battle situation where combatants are separated by hundreds of feet and have body armor. But in close quarters against a most likely untrained shooter a trained pistol operator, with body armor, should not be "outmatched".

106 posted on 02/23/2018 5:03:04 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: ncalburt
Idiot Rick Scott wants to ban all Guns for all people under 21 in FL .

My governor, who in an instant, has turned into an absolute putz!

That said, if he's going to try to do that, he might as well make it age 21 to get a driver's license. More people killed by cars than by guns! Stop the madness of young drivers!!!!

107 posted on 02/23/2018 5:03:04 PM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Coward County


108 posted on 02/23/2018 5:06:24 PM PST by al baby (May the Forceps be with you Hi Mom Its a Joke friends)
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To: Shady

The Nut doesn't fall far from the tree. Broward got what it voted for at election time.

109 posted on 02/23/2018 5:13:37 PM PST by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: LukeL; Bryanw92
For better or worse, these appear to relate to the policies of the department he works for. Which need to be followed. I've noted previously I don't believe the Sheriff, and the actions of the other deputies, sheltering, indicate either these aren't the policies or he's an awful leader, unable to communicate policy

That's exactly what we're examining Sheriff Israel said, noting that active shooter protocols require confronting suspects as quickly as possible. "You don't wait for SWAT, you get in and you push toward the shooter"

Asked what Mr Peterson should have done, Sheriff Israel said: "Went in, addressed the killer, killed the killer." Sheriff Israel said Mr Peterson had not given a reason for why he did not go into the building where the shooter was. It is unclear if he will face charges.

110 posted on 02/23/2018 5:16:51 PM PST by SJackson (The easiest way to find something lost around the house is to buy a replacement)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Really makes you think about Reagan’s nine most terrifying words in the English language: I’m from the Government, and I’m here to help. Little did he know.


111 posted on 02/23/2018 5:17:12 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (Have an A-1 day.)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

Lots of Yankee transplants in Broward.


112 posted on 02/23/2018 5:20:26 PM PST by ilovesarah2012 (I)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Scott Israel and Megan Barry are both on deathwatch jobwise


113 posted on 02/23/2018 5:28:18 PM PST by wardaddy (As a southerner I've never trusted the Grand Old Party.....any questions?)
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To: Bryanw92

Yep

Where’s standard press conference where all the big cops and politicians salute each other for heroism and job well done

This is killing the gun confiscation route

Sorry libs


114 posted on 02/23/2018 5:29:59 PM PST by wardaddy (As a southerner I've never trusted the Grand Old Party.....any questions?)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

“Coward County”.... Right, you are!!


115 posted on 02/23/2018 5:31:14 PM PST by LYDIAONTARIO
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To: adc

One or two SRO at every school where I live near Franklin TN

I think as of this they all have two now

Some are Iraq war combat vets and one I know I have no doubt would risk his life to save kids at the K-5 he protects

No doubt att all

But some only had a chubby woman deputy...who spent her time in the front office chatting with fellow chubby women

I was not impressed

Like I said

There are two now all schools here

We can harden our schools which is a good start


116 posted on 02/23/2018 5:34:56 PM PST by wardaddy (As a southerner I've never trusted the Grand Old Party.....any questions?)
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To: freeandfreezing

If I wielded the AR or AK, he’d not survive his entry.


117 posted on 02/23/2018 5:36:24 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Professional

And if any private citizen opens fire on the perp - that citizen ends up in jail.

What a gov’t!


118 posted on 02/23/2018 5:52:38 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (This country & world is living on borrowed time (Luke 17:26-27))
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I just tweeted this, but so far no one has brought up the Uber driver.

A kid with an AR-15 and a bag of ammo gets into your car and asks to be taken to a SCHOOL? And the driver takes him?

This will bankrupt the company. The lawsuit will destroy the driver-—I don’t care what caveats the company insurance policies have-—and Uber is finished when the ambulance chasers are done with them.


119 posted on 02/23/2018 5:57:07 PM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: vette6387
We can’t, from a common decency perspective tell the Liberal parents in Parkland that they themselves killed their kids, but when taken in totality, the combined actions of the School Board, the School Administration, the BCSO, that worthless pr!ck Sheriff Scott Israel, the even more worthless SRO, Scott Peterson, these other spineless BCSO “deputies,” and last, but by no means least, the FBI, they voted for a “broader government” that did it’s best not to protect or save their children.

You forgot to mention Uncle Joe Biden whose "Safe Schools Act" created the target rich environment of "gun free zones" from coast to coast.

We have to pin this tale on that jackass.

120 posted on 02/23/2018 5:57:37 PM PST by lightman (ANTIFA is full of Bolshevik.)
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