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‘Right to Work’ Is a Cynical Power Grab
AFL-CIO ^ | February 23, 2018 | Stan Sorscher

Posted on 02/24/2018 2:58:19 PM PST by mdittmar

The effort to expand cynically named "right to work" laws says a lot about what is wrong with politics in our country. Disguised as protecting workers, the real goal is to silence workers’ voice, reduce our bargaining power and make our jobs more precarious. It’s about power—social, political and economic power.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
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To: heterosupremacist
Right to Work means you can't be prevented from taking a job until the union ALLOWS you to take the job. They only ALLOW it if you pay the union dues. They may choose to not allow you to join the union because they don't like something about you. The union becomes a gatekeeper between a private individual and a private business agreeing to terms of employment. The union hates the prospect of losing that power over individuals.

I live in a Right to Work state. I don't put anything on my cars supporting the policy because there are plenty of union members who would vandalize my vehicle and re-arrange my kneecaps. No need to be a target. I have an "at will" employment agreement. It states that the employer or employee is free to terminate the working agreement for any reason or no reason. You aren't contractually obligated to stay if the employer inflicts undesirable behavior to the employee. Part of my initial agreement also identified items of intellectual property that were mine and not the property of the company. In the course of employment, you will build things as a "work for hire". That is company property if you developed it in the course of compensated employment. Patents developed at company expense traditionally bear the name of the researcher, but rights to the use of the patent are company property. It's a nice perk.

41 posted on 02/24/2018 4:00:44 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: heterosupremacist

I drove a yellow cab in NYC and had to buy a “union ticket” for $3 on every shift.

God only knows what it is now.

There was absolutely no way to qualify for any union benefits either unless you worked a ridiculous number of hours a month.

Looks like capitalism has put a stake through their heart though

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/20/new-york-yellow-cab-taxi-medallion-value-cost

‘There’s no future for taxis’: New York yellow cab drivers drowning in debt

Ride-hail services like Uber and Lyft have saturated the market, and an exodus of drivers from cabs has made medallion values drop – leaving many owing money


42 posted on 02/24/2018 4:01:52 PM PST by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I don’t know what proportion of union members are evil thugs, but 100% of them are okay with contributing their dues to pay those thugs. A shocking number actively join in the violence against their innocent victims. Unions disgust me.


43 posted on 02/24/2018 4:03:29 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: heterosupremacist
Am I mistaken?

Yes.

Right to work does not mean you can not be part of a union.

It just means you can not be forced to join a union.

Here in Michigan we had a particularly nasty ploy, the SEIU successfully lobbied for unpaid family members to be classified as "home health care workers."

The 44,000 people affected never wanted to be part of a union. Why would they? There was no benefit to them. And they did not realize they were even being unionized.

When they got a letter from for the SEIU they tossed it as junk mail.

That was the only communication they had that they were being unionized.

Dues were then automatically collected from the care recipients' Medicare or Medicaid checks. The union ripped them off to the tune of 34 million.

Now mind you these people were not being paid in the first place. So the money was coming from the money that was suppose to provide treatment for the person they were caring for.

It takes a special kind of lower life form to rip off the sick and dying.

When right to work passed (and this was one reason it did pass) the union could no longer steal from the disabled. But they refused to pay the money they stole for doing exactly NOTHING.

That is what unions do.

And that is what Right to Work does.

It prevents a specially protected class from forcing people to give them money at gun point.

44 posted on 02/24/2018 4:08:53 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: mdittmar
If current trends continue the only people in unions in 2025 will be those drawing government paychecks.
45 posted on 02/24/2018 4:17:15 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obama & Hillary: The Two Most Corrupt Politicians of My Lifetime.)
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To: Pollster1
I was a first level manager at a BOC writing software for the company. The 212 modem assigned to me in the computer room rack was mis-optioned. I asked the CWA union steward multiple times over 6 weeks to fix it and he would not. My connection would drop into remote digital loopback and destroy hours of software editing work. I was finally pissed off enough that I flipped the switch myself. The turd shop steward looked up my home phone number and had his union goons clip my main number. No dial tone. This happened 10 minutes after the turd learned I flipped the switch. I reported the outage. The turd called his goons to "fix it" by turning over TIP/RING leads so I got dial tone, but reverse polarized so my touch tone pad would not work. I never let on to the turd that I had a 2nd unlisted number at the house and was able to call my wife to diagnose the problems. The turd also didn't know that I was the former Toll Central Office Equipment engineer for the office supplying my dial tone. I was very good friends with the Wire Chief at the office. We quietly fixed the problem without the belligerent CWA pukes. My "drop" had been cut with diagonal cutters. Deliberate sabotage in the central office.

My first union run-in was with IBEW. They wanted to force me to join so I could walk into the San Diego ship yards to care for electronics on the tuna seiners. The bastards wanted their $60 initiation fee so bad that the took a power saw and cut the radio (AM/FM/8-Track) out of the console of my car. $1200 damage for an F'ing $60 fee. The other guy in my office had all the windows of his car smashed and $400 in camera gear stolen. Suffice to say, IBEW is permanent on my S-list. I avoid union interaction like the plague.

46 posted on 02/24/2018 4:18:06 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

In NYC there is a butchers union, I worked on designing their new HQ back in the 80’s.

Total Mob control, they had a black guy as President for appearances sake, but the crazy looking Mafia guy who sat in on the meetings was clearly in charge.

Bottom line is that in non-right to work states you pay the union or you don’t work.

By the way, Trumps FAILURE to DISBAND FEDERAL WORKERS UNIONS is not MAGA.


47 posted on 02/24/2018 4:18:34 PM PST by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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To: 5th MEB

My husband runs a company that is forced to hire Union goons. as the Employer, he pays 85k per month for the “privilege” of employing said A**holes. Workmen’s comp is outrageous as well, try winning one of those suits even with photos of the “injured” cutting down trees and shoveling two feet of snow!
Such a sickening SCAM!
Auuugh!
Do Not get me started! This is a relatively small operation.


48 posted on 02/24/2018 4:19:54 PM PST by acapesket (all happy now?)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear; heterosupremacist

Unions appeared and got legal support in the wake of abuses. When the abuses went away the unions had to either dissolve or gin up more and more grievances to justify their existence.

The H1B is the new abuse, but unions don’t want to take that on as a cause. Why? The payola. Don’t lobby against the foreign imports if they can be taxed.


49 posted on 02/24/2018 4:22:20 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: mdittmar

Unions suck. The uato workers (UAW) couldn’t get the Chattanooga VW plant vote to go their way with 4 or 5 votes.

Union finally (with Obama’s LRB) manages to sneak in a small UAW sub group. Crazy. Google/bing/DuckDuckGo it.

Down South men feel confident to do a good job, get honest pay, individually negotiate based on performance, but UAW wants to come in and protect druggies, incompetence, diversity, labor categories.... that have proven to kill everyone’s job. Pathetic.

German car companies are used to negotiating with unions that care about the long term and employees but that ain’t the UAW. Crazy world where the workers have to protect themselves and the company against the unions.

Don’t forget the UAW will spend the union dues supporting politics their members don’t agree with. Just ask the coal miner union members about the millions spent supporting “global warming” and green house gas emissions reductions buy gutting their own members jobs. It’s crazy. Teachers unions supporting Abortion ....


50 posted on 02/24/2018 4:23:56 PM PST by wgmalabama (The government murdered Robert LaVoy Finicum - what makes you think you are not next?)
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To: Rome2000

Does Trump have this legal authority or the power in Congress?


51 posted on 02/24/2018 4:25:32 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: mdittmar

Arise, you prisoners of starvation!


52 posted on 02/24/2018 4:28:10 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: HiTech RedNeck

This CRIME against AMERICAN TAXPAYERS was perpetrated by JFK via Executive Order.


53 posted on 02/24/2018 5:00:49 PM PST by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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To: mdittmar; All
Thank you for referencing that article mdittmar. As usual, please note that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

Patriots are reminded that the states have never amended the Constitution to expressly protect labor unions.

In fact, the NLRB doesn’t have any constitutional justification to exist imo, arguably a product of post-17th Amendment ratification lawmakers willing to make unconstitutional promises to low-information voters to get elected, but also consider the following.

Regardless what FDR’s state sovereignty-ignoring activist justices wanted everybody to believe about the scope of Congress’s Commerce Clause powers (1.8.3) when they wrongly decided Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824 in Congress’s favor imo, please consider this.

FDR’s activist justices wrongly ignored that a previous generation of state sovereignty-respecting justices had clarified that the states have never expressly constitutionally delegated to the feds the specific power to regulate INTRAstate commerce.

"State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress [emphases added]." -Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

On the other hand, note that a given state can make laws supporting unions, as long as such laws don’t abridge the constitutionally enumerated rights of citizens, such action prohibited by Section 1 of the 14th Amendment.



Corrections, insights welcome.

54 posted on 02/24/2018 5:09:27 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: heterosupremacist
I grew up in the west and southwest where right to work is the way it is at most jobs. You have the right to work somewhere or not. Same goes with the employers. You are not beholden to some union steward. But then the company isn't either.

I never had a union job, but I never understood why you would be forced to give someone some of your money to keep your job.

Sounds like protection money or extortion to me.

55 posted on 02/24/2018 5:26:52 PM PST by HotHunt
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To: mdittmar

The unions are on the ropes because the union leadership knows that 90% of the rank and file support Trump’s positions against the alien invaders. The union guys in construction or trucking goods know that these alien invaders are taking their jobs.

The leadership realizes that their fat and comfortable life - living like princes off confiscated union dues - is about to end.


56 posted on 02/24/2018 5:56:25 PM PST by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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To: Rome2000

Were it that easy, a court challenge would bring it down.


57 posted on 02/24/2018 6:02:53 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: heterosupremacist
On this one, you are wrong...

The alternative to "Right to Work" (with no one and no co$t between you and your employer...)

...is "Compulsory Union Membership" (You have no choice but to pay $$$ to Union/Mafia goons to allow you to work...)

58 posted on 02/24/2018 6:04:43 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias; "0bama": Allah's stooge; "Moderate Muslims": Allah's useful idiots.)
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To: acapesket

That sounds pretty much par for the course; I hired private detectives to look into and report on some of the Workers Comp cases I had that I thought were fraud.
I actually had video of one crook doing down hill skiing at Mammoth Ski Resort, and video of another doing league bowling.
Both were supposed back injuries.
The state doesn’t care because they are not paying the insurance costs on WC, the employer has to do that.
I could go on for a thousand cases and ten thousand pages about the fraud that their unions encourage, and the state ignores.
The ones I really hated were the ones that happened when an employee would injure themselves doing a side job on the weekend, then come crawling into work and an hour later they would claim an on the job injury, with NO witnesses of course.
You just have to file their claim and hire a good detective.
And also get an honest Labor Board hearing.


59 posted on 02/24/2018 6:21:33 PM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: heterosupremacist

I didn’t get canned, I quit.
After listening to about 4,000 delegates at that meeting tell me how great JIMMUH CARTER was, I felt like projectile vomiting.
I guess the fact that I had the ONLY WHITE FACE in the whole auditorium might have factored into the threats, jeers, and catcalls I got after making my (conservative) political statement in rebuttal to all their socialist crap.


60 posted on 02/24/2018 6:32:40 PM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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