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To: MarvinStinson; sparklite2; RedMonqey

I think he is saying that the Left uses the horrors of the Holocaust as distraction from the horrors of the Communist regimes.
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That’s the shorthand way to say it.

Lillian Hellman’s generation was the first generation to use Holocaust as a distraction. It was both ingenious and diabolical.

Remember the democrat playbook.

They accuse republicans of what they themselves do. They impute to republicans their very own evil,

The earliest example of this comes from american communists of the early 50s. They were current of events in the soviet union. they knew that stalin was planning a massive Holocaust against Russian jews—who comprised the second largest group in the russian communist party after the great russians themselves. stalin would have carried it off too. he had the concentration camps already set up. The russian propaganda machine was in high gear against russian jews by 1953. 100 or so russian jews had already been executed.

But suddenly in 1953 stalin died. so the pogrom was called off. but in the same year the rosenbergs were executed for passing the secrets that gave the soviet union the atom bomb.

Now remember 1953. In that year that the democrat president Trump was succeeded by the republican president Eisenhower.

because of events in the old soviet union—american communists read a very different story into the execution of the rosenbergs. they imputed to the republicans exactly what stalin had planned to do to russian jews. they deemed the rosenbergs execution as the beginning of a pogrom and the mccarthy hearings as just a stalin like show trial as a precurser to wide scale persecutions.

that’s why lillian hellman was such a cause celebre. her and many communists like her—were people leftists/communists considered to be the guardians at the gate who helped hold off the existential threat to america’s jews posed by republicans.

it was a blood libel of course but given the nearness of the holocaust and the still strangeness of the USA to many communists—it was a perfectly plausible lie.

In just the same way the democrats today impute to the Trump administration the collusion business—something that they themselves did. and its perfectly plausible too—to democrats. after all what normal person/democrat on the west side of manhattan or west hollywood or san francisco would vote for trump? nobody. that is nobody any democrat in those areas knew. therefor trump’s election must have been a trick; the result of some russian scheme.

Why russians? because the democrats paid for the russians to do the steele dossier.

Again, remember the democrats impute to the republicans the evil that they themselves do.

(As a historical footnote—its worth noting that Russians did begin the expulsion of Russian jews starting in the 1970’s.)


13 posted on 02/24/2018 6:11:43 PM PST by ckilmer (q e)
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To: MarvinStinson; sparklite2; RedMonqey

Now remember 1953. In that year that the democrat president Trump was succeeded by the republican president Eisenhower.
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I need an editor.

That should read

Now remember 1953. In that year that the democrat president Truman was succeeded by the republican president Eisenhower.


14 posted on 02/24/2018 6:18:18 PM PST by ckilmer (q e)
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To: ckilmer
Remember the democrat playbook. They accuse republicans of what they themselves do. They impute to republicans their very own evil

Like the old joke about lawyers;If their lips are moving, they are lying.

I remember reading about Stalin's purported purges against the Jews before the Wall fell but don't know what is true. This is what I remember.

It was thought that Stalin, ever on the alert for possible plots against him and always seeking enemies to whom he could lay blame for the failures of "scientific socialism" had at last thought to have seen enemies in what once was a force in Soviet Communism: Left wing Jews.

Long been the whipping dog of the Czars, Jews, particularly Left wing radicals, made a large part of the Russian Communist movement. Having gotten rid of nearly every other possible rival to his mad rule, Stalin eventually fell into the rut that ensnared the Czars, Hitler and now him, Anti-semitism.

If the story is true, however the "Jooz" struck first, possibly his own doctor if my memory served. Thus no Jewish pogrom got off the ground.

Now to American Jewish Left.

I found it incredible that the Secular Jewish Left found enemies in Republicans while ignoring the very real enemies of all Jews in the Democratic Party. The party of the then very strong, very influential and very anti-Semetic KKK.

I can understand American Jews being a bit gun shy after their cousins experience in Europe but the Democrats?

Inconceivable!

I can only guess that the very WASPish Ivy League, then very much in the hands of Northeastern GOP, were very distasteful and more of a threat to the intellectuals of the Jewish Left, being geologically close and more familiar with their ideological foes(of secular, leftist Jews) and the guardians of Northern Industrialist, the Grand Old Party. (So much for Jewish Left being down for the Negro Movement, always promising blacks but never delivering..)

Now it's the Hispanics that will get the gravy while blacks are still waiting for a few beans(to borrow a phrase) "Beware of Democrats making promises"

However I guess Truman's(Trump's?)recognition of Israel in 1949, despite the Very WASPy State Department's advice(good advice, in my opinion) of not doing so because of the fear of inflaming the "Arab Street"

It did solidify Jews in the Democratic Party(despite the Left's NOW open hostility to the very existence of the State of Israel and the welcome mat the Righteous Right has for Tel Aviv in the Republican Party, which is quite a story how Southern Baptists and Evangelicals( never before being supportive of the formation of the modern State of Israel) to being it's strongest American ally)

And gave the "George Bush's" of this nation an excuse to support foreign wars in the Middle East of which we have no national interest and make permanent enemies of Muslims everywhere..

The GOPe, ever the hapless fools...
21 posted on 02/25/2018 1:09:57 PM PST by RedMonqey ("You don't tug on Superman's cape...You don't spit into the wind...")
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