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Editorial: Ghost Guns And Bump Stocks — Ban Them Both (barf alert)
Hartford Courant ^ | 23 feb 2018

Posted on 02/27/2018 5:08:32 AM PST by rellimpank

It is perfectly legal, at the moment, to go online and buy most of an unassembled gun, without a serial number, without any registration requirements. Only a modicum of skill is needed to put it all together.

How can it be so easy for anyone to acquire and assemble an AR-15, or AK-47, or something even more deadly?

Even in Connecticut, which passed some of the nation’s toughest gun laws in the wake of the Sandy Hook shootings, anyone could get a ready-to-assemble gun by mail.

Thankfully, so-called ghost guns are on the radar of Connecticut legislators, who are considering legislation that would ban them.

There is no good reason to own an unregistered, untraceable firearm, and law-abiding gun owners should agree. Untraceable guns are ready-made for crime.

If gun enthusiasts wish to build their own firearms, from kits or otherwise, they should have that right. But the law must require that kit sales be registered, that the weapons be identifiable with serial numbers, and that purchasers go through the same background checks that are required when one buys a firearm from a store.

(Excerpt) Read more at courant.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: banglist; rkba
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1 posted on 02/27/2018 5:08:32 AM PST by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank

A better idea:

Ban the Constitutional Rights of the Courant

Ban the editors from ever writing opionions again

Turnabout is fair play

Your rights for my rights


2 posted on 02/27/2018 5:12:28 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat (Hey brainwashed students . . . where's your "outrage" @FBI? @BrowardSheriff? DO SOMETHING!!)
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To: rellimpank
There is no good reason to own an unregistered, untraceable firearm, and law-abiding gun owners should agree. Untraceable guns are ready-made for crime.

There is one very good reason: As protection from future confiscation by the government.

3 posted on 02/27/2018 5:13:26 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: rellimpank
How can it be so easy for anyone to acquire and assemble an AR-15, or AK-47, or something even more deadly?

Because we’re talking about 100 year old technology here. From this point on, it will never be particularly difficult for someone with enough motivation to assemble an assault weapon.

4 posted on 02/27/2018 5:16:09 AM PST by Drew68
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To: A_Former_Democrat

It would seem that what they’re really banning is really any alteration to any gun. I can’t see how a bunch of accessories and a blank can be registered without it. The only other solution would be to ban any piece of metal that could be machined into a lower receiver, which is a pretty wide net to cast!
Never fear, gun grabbers to the rescue!


5 posted on 02/27/2018 5:17:27 AM PST by Conservative_caterer (Support Donald Trump! The Republic needs you!)
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To: Yo-Yo

...There is one very good reason: As protection from future confiscation by the government...

That American tradition goes back to Lexington, where Colonists hid their arms and ammunition from George III.
And just look at the ruckus that happened when his Redcoats came to confiscate them.


6 posted on 02/27/2018 5:19:25 AM PST by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning)
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To: Drew68

If the question was....how many people are capable of building or constructing an AR-15-like weapon....I’d take a reasonable guess that more 25,000 machinists exist within the US who could probably do the job. Course, why limit our worries to people ‘with motivation’ with guns? How many PhD guys can construct a nuke bomb from scratch within the US? 10,000....100,000?


7 posted on 02/27/2018 5:23:09 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: rellimpank

Any Federal bans will cause the oathbreaking politicians to lose my vote in 2018 and 2020.


8 posted on 02/27/2018 5:27:39 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (Enjoy the decline of the American empire.)
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To: Conservative_caterer

You will have to start registering aluminum bar stock.


9 posted on 02/27/2018 5:35:11 AM PST by brianr10
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To: rellimpank

The Courant is the worst newspaper there is. Makes NYT look respectable.


10 posted on 02/27/2018 5:36:08 AM PST by Celerity
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To: Yo-Yo

“There is no good reason to own an unregistered, untraceable firearm, and law-abiding gun owners should agree. Untraceable guns are ready-made for crime.”

By their own admission a gun with a serial number is (closer to being) a crime deterrent.

These people think that race cars have numbers on them to make them go faster ?


11 posted on 02/27/2018 5:38:12 AM PST by Celerity
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To: rellimpank

My personal feeling is the Rats realized they were losing on DACA, they were losing on #FusionCollusion and needed something to change the Brown Shirt Media narrative. Parkland happened just in time. “Never let a ‘happening’ go to waste”.


12 posted on 02/27/2018 5:41:51 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Drew68

As I’ve been saying for a while. Go ahead and uninvent something.


13 posted on 02/27/2018 5:57:01 AM PST by cyclotic (Trump tweets are the only news source you can trust.)
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To: pepsionice

Nope. Anyone can do it. A Harbor Freight drill press is all that’s necessary.

My son’s built theirs. We used a milling machine simply because a friend has one. Great learning experience.

Others I know used simple drill presses.

Polymer stock is even easier than metal.


14 posted on 02/27/2018 5:59:33 AM PST by cyclotic (Trump tweets are the only news source you can trust.)
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To: rellimpank
Even in Connecticut, which passed some of the nation’s toughest gun laws in the wake of the Sandy Hook shootings, anyone could get a ready-to-assemble gun by mail.

This premise falls flat on its face. Here's a "ready-to-assemble" gun by mail, all you need to do is add a stripped lower receiver, or complete your own 80% lower: CDNN Sports AR15 CARBINE RIFLE KIT 556 MIDLENGTH QUADRAIL 1:7

If you go to the above link and look at the bottom of the page, you will see (emphasis added):

"This item cannot be shipped to California, Connecticut, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, or Washington D.C."

So no, if you live in Connecticut you cannot just buy a "ready-to-assemble" rifle kit by mail.

15 posted on 02/27/2018 6:00:11 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: brianr10

There’s a good YouTube of a guy casting an AR lower blank from 280 melted aluminum cans and machining it into a functional piece and constructing and firing the rifle from it.


16 posted on 02/27/2018 6:05:07 AM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Drew68; rellimpank; All

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Because we’re talking about 100 year old technology here. From this point on, it will never be particularly difficult for someone with enough motivation to assemble an assault weapon.
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Assemble a WEAPON, yes, but an ‘assault weapon’? Please define ‘assault weapon’. (If if just a tongue slip, using the Leftist lingo gives them all they need to turn the tide in the debate).

Assembly? Wasn’t the AK-47 (variants) designed to be rapidly/easily manufactured? Some sheet metal, couple tools and time = fully functional weapon?

Same with any other, no? Take block of aluminum, drill press\mill...

Hell, Lowes\Home Depot have EVERYTHING one needs in the plumbing section to create the crudest form a slap-gun.

Knives/cars? Hell, one needs only a few Molotov cocktails to pull off a truly macabre massacre; no metal detectors needed there!


17 posted on 02/27/2018 6:12:21 AM PST by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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To: Yo-Yo
Exactly.

The writers of the article can't be honest and say their intent with registration is to confiscate sometime later.

18 posted on 02/27/2018 6:14:46 AM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: pepsionice

If you can smuggle people and drugs over the southern border, why not AK’s?


19 posted on 02/27/2018 6:19:16 AM PST by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: i_robot73
Please define ‘assault weapon’.

Any high-density solid object with a little weight to it, some caustic or irritant liquids, many toxic gases, if properly deployed.

Even strong words, if delivered properly to a liberal, may injure them.

20 posted on 02/27/2018 6:20:01 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (The Obama is about to hit the fan.)
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