The NRA Is Not Your Typical Interest Group

National Review ^ | 02/26/2018 | Jay Cost

[Harpotoo]

From the article: The NRA is looking to defend CERTAIN PRINCIPLES that its members are committed to, often passionately.

WHAT absolute BS!

It’s defense of the Constitution and Bill of Rights!

[Harpotoo]

Same here!

[fortheDeclaration]

Well, it wasn’t put back into effect and that was a win for the NRA.

[NorthMountain]

The Congress showed uncommon valor in its courageous act of doing nothing ...

[familyop]

"Tell me one thing the nra has rolled back in the last 50 years."

We stopped nearly all new federal anti-Second-Amendment efforts since the turn of the millenium and have regained some rights. This isn't the old Elmer Fudd NRA.

As for states like California, New York and New Jersey, we can't control the politics of those states. The only way for Republicans of those states to start winning, would be to complete their assimilation into traditional American culture and demand old American conservatism without compromise. They would need, for example, to recognize the importance of human beings over animals, trees and "pristine" whatever (things of the "old country").

[Secret Agent Man]

No, not what I said.

I am not talking keeping things the same by preventing worse legislation.

What laws have been rolled back? Gun control act of 68? Have we gotten suppresors back to before tax stamps and extra background checks and fees? Brady bill? waiting periods? how about domestic violence charges, which are often heresay and can be yelling at someone, not forfeiting gun rights?

I know a lot of work goes into status quo but that isnt how you roll things back. thats just treading water, but you arent swimming anywhere just treading water.

[fortheDeclaration]

There was a great deal of pressure to keep the band.

[NorthMountain]

You have a somewhat different definition of “a great deal” from mine.

[familyop]

This is what only one of us did.

Shooting survivor confronts NRA spokesperson Dana Loesch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AtOU0dDXv8

One, by herself, against the mob while right in the middle of it. She grew up poor because of the slow foreign takeover that’s been going on for decades.

Think about what a few million of us can do. Or don’t think about it. Party instead. Get really drunk into the late hours.

[familyop]

"What laws have been rolled back?"

Many. Laws against concealed carry as one example. Granted, some of the new laws on that are oriented in favor of the political class, with open carry also made illegal for those who don't pay the various expenses for legal and financial protection when getting permits.

On the part about restraining orders in the Violence Against Women Act, the last I knew, the U.S. Supreme Court was still refusing to hear cases on people with restraining orders (which only require allegations) serving mandatory federal prison sentences for possessing firearms. So those people stayed in prison. One was a doctor known by many to be a good man who hadn't been properly convicted of anything.

There are many lobbies from large organizations behind the divorce/cohabitation/feminism/romanticism movement. One feasible way to shut it down would be for most people to stop getting high, stop "partying" in general, respect marriage and outlaw adultery and sodomy again. No-fault divorce would have to go. That's not going to happen. So we'll just keep our eye on the beastly whorehouse side of this nation, while it continues in its obvious insanity to kill itself.

The NRA is all that we have besides the national organizations with smaller numbers and the state organizations. I'll support them, because the alternative would be to see our nation disarmed and our Second Amendment gone.

[familyop]

I'll tell you what. Here's what you said.

"Sure, right.

Tell me one thing the nra has rolled back in the last 50 years."

I'm not going to pussyfoot around with comments like that any more. Tell me what your anti-Second-Amendment lobbies have done for us.

Lead, follow, or get out the way.

[familyop]

If you really want the NRA to do something, tell the NRA. And yes, you can only hope that there are plenty of others doing the same. But that’s just the way things work. The anti-Second-Amendment left was winning at times because of their incrementalism and persistence: a lesson we should have learned a long time ago.

I put in a lot time for fathers’ rights and family rights, knowing that those problems probably wouldn’t be reversed within my lifetime. I only care about what I do—not outcomes.

[Secret Agent Man]

I’m not the one out there asking people to join me. Personally GOA and JPFO fit my views on things better. Havent compromised on their positions.

[familyop]

GOA and JPFO are good choices, too.