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Trump’s Tariff Folly
Wall Street Journal ^ | March 1, 2018

Posted on 03/02/2018 6:13:39 AM PST by reaganaut1

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To: reaganaut1

Trump pretty much promised this during the campaign.


41 posted on 03/02/2018 6:46:44 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: reaganaut1

Good for Mr. Trump and the GOPe/WSJ can go straight to hell.


42 posted on 03/02/2018 6:46:53 AM PST by TTFlyer
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To: reaganaut1

Funny, the Wall Street Journal supports sanctions on products from Iran and Russia. Sanctions are more than tariffs - they are total bans on imports. So the Journal is ok with stifling free trade and raising the price, say, of oil - but not when it’s done for the purpose of reviving the American steel industry


43 posted on 03/02/2018 6:47:59 AM PST by WilliamIII
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To: reaganaut1

The question is do we want to have a domestic steel industry, or be completely dependent on foreign supply? I say we need one, and if paying more for some products is what it takes so be it.


44 posted on 03/02/2018 6:48:13 AM PST by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: Fhios
Raw steel and Aluminum need to be produced in the U.S in at least a modest quantity in order to keep up with the Industry and have a ready base to expand in the event we do need to expand.

They are produced in the U.S. in more than modest quantities. We exported 7.6 million metric tons in the first three quarters of last year, mainly to Mexico and Canada. The two countries who export to us and who we are going to hit with a 25% tariff. We import virtually no steel at all from China.

We also exported almost three million tons of aluminum.

45 posted on 03/02/2018 6:48:33 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: reaganaut1
Could this be why?


46 posted on 03/02/2018 6:48:57 AM PST by McGruff (#ObamaGate)
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To: reaganaut1

Can anyone speculate how this affects the recycle and scrap business?

Those prices have been way down for quite a while.


47 posted on 03/02/2018 6:50:13 AM PST by GG-1
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To: TTFlyer

Ironically, the GOP of Lincoln, McKinley, Teddy Roosevelt, Coolidge, Ike, was protectionist. Eve Reagan imposed tariffs to protect US jobs. In cotrast, today’s GOP establishment is globalist, not nationalist


48 posted on 03/02/2018 6:51:05 AM PST by WilliamIII
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To: jmaroneps37

There is something much bigger at play here. In a few weeks SCOTUS is going to vote on Janus v. Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees. If Janus wins, (the vote was deadlocked at 4 to 4 because of the death of Scalia and now Gorsuch is seated) union workers will have the choice on whether to pay dues or not. A win here and for the most part unions will be financially decimated which will lead to right to work votes.

When this happens, the price of steel will come down, quality will go up which will lead to more foreign and domestic sales.

For 18 months Trump has implemented his agenda to the benefit of the American people. This move solidifies the rust belt as Republican.


49 posted on 03/02/2018 6:52:01 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (What is a Blue City? First world cities run by third world politicians.)
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To: DoodleDawg

“A lot of people around here apparently have no problem with Trump’s spending and debt so where’s the difference?”

They are an economic newspaper.


50 posted on 03/02/2018 6:53:08 AM PST by TakebackGOP
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To: DoodleDawg
We import virtually no steel at all from China.

"Bridge Comes to San Francisco With a Made-in-China Label"

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/26/business/global/26bridge.html

51 posted on 03/02/2018 6:53:40 AM PST by going hot (happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: reaganaut1

Trump was above board about this in his campaign. If fact, it was a central part of the campaign.

We discussed it then.

Will prices rise. Yes.

But...manufacturing jobs will remain here, wages will rise, we will have our vital industries here, our nation will be enriched, slave labor nations will not live at our expense.


52 posted on 03/02/2018 6:56:26 AM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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To: dila813
"He will get sued and lose..."

Probably unnecessary.

As with every other move DJT makes, some judge who considers himself king of the world will likely deem this "unlawful" and throw it out.

53 posted on 03/02/2018 7:01:38 AM PST by daler
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To: Psalm 73

Awhile back I was watching a news segment about (of all things) door-locking mechanisms in cars. A Chinese company was selling them to US car manufacturers for less than $1 a unit. Their goal was to drive the US producers out of business.

And according to the report, the Chinese strategy was working.

Now my car costs, maybe, $25 less than it would otherwise. And another American industry is destroyed. Tragic. So yeah, I’d listen to a pro-tariff argument.

Side note: I suppose that some folks could say just hit China with a “dumping” fine here. But suppose those locking mechanisms really did cost less than $1 each to produce?


54 posted on 03/02/2018 7:01:55 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: reaganaut1

A news article from December that looks related to the tariffs. Looks like the Chinese have been trying to get around existing trade agreements to put it to the US.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trade-steel/u-s-slaps-duties-on-vietnamese-steel-originating-from-china-idUSKBN1DZ385


55 posted on 03/02/2018 7:03:56 AM PST by MRadtke (Light a candle or curse the darkness?)
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To: DoodleDawg

So, if we’re exporting Steel and Aluminum to Mexico and Canada then why are we importing, from who and are they dumping it?

Why does it matter if we slap tariffs on them when we and exporter nation?


56 posted on 03/02/2018 7:04:01 AM PST by Fhios (Mr. Magoo, where are you?)
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To: reaganaut1

Politicians buy votes. Democrats import foreigners, which buys their votes.

That Blue Wall that elected Trump just got its reward for those votes.


57 posted on 03/02/2018 7:08:26 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (DACA is going to be a riot!)
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To: reaganaut1

But when the Federal Reserve raises the cost of money on everybody and causes recessions that result in trillions of dollars of lost opportunity, the WSJ doesn’t care.

I’d rather Trump have a weapon he can use in trade negotiations than to have the Fed manipulating interest rates.


58 posted on 03/02/2018 7:08:53 AM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: going hot
U.S. Steel Imports

China is the 11th largest source for our imported steel, behind Canada, Mexico, South Korea, Taiwan, Japan, Brazil, Russia, Turkey, India, and Germany. We import very little from them, less than 1 percent of our total imports.

59 posted on 03/02/2018 7:10:42 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: robroys woman

You are exactly right.

This is a power play. Trump does not believe the tariffs will continue beyond the point China sets realistic prices.

Ask yourself how much steel or aluminum is in that $1,000 dishwasher or $80,000 pickup truck.

Why does a bare bones pickup cost $35 or $45,000 and the super model cost $80,000? Each has the same steel and aluminum by weight.

The cost of the steel by weight is probably only 10% of the total price.

The rest is labor. When you get to the bottom line, everything is labor. Even the cost of the steel is labor.

So a 25% increase in only 10% of the cost is only .025.

But it makes for a great excuse to raise prices by 10 or 15%.


60 posted on 03/02/2018 7:13:20 AM PST by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so terrible, so disgraceful, that the federal government can not make worse)
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