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Trump’s Tariff Folly
Wall Street Journal ^ | March 1, 2018

Posted on 03/02/2018 6:13:39 AM PST by reaganaut1

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To: dila813

I hope it’s just a negotiating ploy. But it’s also a waste of effort. He should be focusing on something that will actually help. Building the manufacturing industry will help. One thing that has already happened that has given US manufacturing an edge is the resurgence of the oil industry. Manufacturing depends on oil, gas, and chemicals. Also electricity. But the really big potential, I think, is in robotics, and no one is making a push on that. Everyone is scared to death that it will kill more jobs than it creates. I don’t see how that could be. Manufacturing is already dead, for the most part. We can rebuild, and that will provide new demand for steel and aluminum. No need for tariffs.


21 posted on 03/02/2018 6:33:47 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: EagleUSA

Tariffs are popular. Right now POTUS needs to do everything he can to get reelected.


22 posted on 03/02/2018 6:34:13 AM PST by lodi90
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To: reaganaut1

Are these the same commentators that have predicted disasters for Trump’s other policy’s in the past?


23 posted on 03/02/2018 6:34:32 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: NRx

So how do American companies compete when foreign governments subsidize steel and aluminum and sell them here below their costs? Does that seem fair?


24 posted on 03/02/2018 6:34:50 AM PST by IC Ken
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To: reaganaut1

Buy steel on this drop!

This ill-defined tariff proposal won’t stand, as there is too much pushback across the board.

At most, there will be targeted tariffs, likely aimed at China.


25 posted on 03/02/2018 6:35:13 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: TN4Bush

I’m an ex-never-trumper and have come around. And even from that background I’m with him on this. I know it will cost me, but one of the main problems with our country is that people vote their wallets. That’s one reason WHY we’re in the mess we’re in.


26 posted on 03/02/2018 6:35:39 AM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: Beagle8U

Ford designed aluminum into the F150 when the aluminum market was depressed. Its been pretty hot lately with prices increase nearly every month.


27 posted on 03/02/2018 6:36:40 AM PST by caltaxed
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To: reaganaut1

Trump is the FIRST PRESIDENT to get it.

The first one.

This is why he won the election. Because voters, unlike our “leaders”, get that America needs to make things right in America.


28 posted on 03/02/2018 6:36:53 AM PST by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: reaganaut1
Tariffs are a tax on the middle class, which Republicans are supposed to oppose.

The problem is every country has significant import tariffs except the USA. The result: huge trade imbalances and the export of jobs from the USA. If you travel to another country you will be shocked at the prices of American made goods. For example an $80,000 BMW made in South Carolina will set you back $300,000 in China because of import tariffs. What do you want to do about that?

29 posted on 03/02/2018 6:37:05 AM PST by Reeses (A journey of a thousand miles begins with a government pat down.)
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To: TakebackGOP
The problem with the WSJ is that they had no problem with George W. Bush’s spending and debt.

A lot of people around here apparently have no problem with Trump's spending and debt so where's the difference?

30 posted on 03/02/2018 6:37:11 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: reaganaut1

President Trump hasn’t let me down yet.

I expect these tariffs will prove beneficial to the nation as a whole over time.

Of course the progressives & the never-trumper/globalists will bitch & moan.


31 posted on 03/02/2018 6:37:59 AM PST by TheStickman (#MAGA all day every day!)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

China produces more steel because they have more manufacturing though. We need to grow our manufacturing base. That will provide a market for steel and aluminum. Monkeying with the tariffs is a double-edged sword. It helps some industries, like steel in the short run, but it hurts others. And those that it hurts then cut their use of steel and aluminum, which comes back on the steel and aluminum industry. Eventually it backfires. Better to encourage the growth in the manufacturing of the final product, which will increase the demand for steel and aluminum instead of reducing the supply.


32 posted on 03/02/2018 6:38:51 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: reaganaut1

And continuing to fund China’s military is retarded.


33 posted on 03/02/2018 6:39:04 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: caltaxed

Yup, and the price is now going up another 10%.


34 posted on 03/02/2018 6:39:10 AM PST by Beagle8U (Wake up and smell the Covfef)
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To: reaganaut1

Well let’s see, Trump has experts who advised him that this is a positive move. Nevertheless, the experts on Freerepublic insist they know better. We’ll see. Meanwhile I’ll stand with Trump.


35 posted on 03/02/2018 6:40:22 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism us truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: NRx
>>>I’m not a huge fan of the WSJ but on this one, they are right. This was a dreadful mistake.

Yes, it is. I'm good friends with a man who owns a small steel biz. He's not happy at all. It's going to cost him a lot of money. Probably will cost a few their jobs eventually if this is not just a threat and turns into a trade war.

36 posted on 03/02/2018 6:42:20 AM PST by NELSON111
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To: Brilliant

I think we mostly agree.

Tariffs protect inefficiency. Sometimes it’s necessary, at other times it is political favoritism.

The only time they are truly warranted is when there’s a good reason to protect a strategic industry. This could be for defense capability. Or, it could be to help a young industry grow.

China protects its auto industry. It is also trying like crazy to develop a national commercial airframe champion, and to become a power in semiconductors, like it has in the solar panel industry.

It does this by charging tariffs, and depressing the wages of its workers.


37 posted on 03/02/2018 6:43:12 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine ("Married with children.")
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To: Brilliant

Robots need maintenance and programming, I think it will lead to more jobs and higher paying ones. The one thing robots don’t do is micro-industries where you make one off’s with 3d printing so there again more jobs and higher pay.


38 posted on 03/02/2018 6:43:36 AM PST by dila813 (Voting for Trump to Punish Trumpets!)
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To: lodi90
>>>Tariffs are popular. Right now POTUS needs to do everything he can to get reelected.

They won't be popular when people see the impacts. Everyone who has a business that this will impact are against this; from small to large business...they are almost unanimous. That attitude will trickle down to their employees.

39 posted on 03/02/2018 6:44:39 AM PST by NELSON111
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To: reaganaut1

“Tariffs are a tax on the middle class, which Republicans are supposed to oppose.”

Idiocy. Mark Levin started his program off yesterday with that mantra, and I immediately clicked him off. I have heard that a thousand times.

If that is true, then why do countries so zealously tax American imports coming into their countries when we don’t tax their imports coming into ours?

If tariffs are so crippling to a country’s economy, then why don’t all countries immediately abolish theirs?

I have been lectured to by people on this site that trade deficits are okay. It that is true, then why don’t all the countries in the world compete for larger trade deficits rather than implement tariffs to avoid them?

Morally speaking, if it is okay for other nations to implement tariffs, then why is it so wrong for the United States to implement tariffs?


40 posted on 03/02/2018 6:46:22 AM PST by odawg
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