Posted on 03/05/2018 8:28:40 AM PST by fishtank
The Impossibility of Life's Evolutionary Beginnings
BY JEFFREY P. TOMKINS, PH.D. * |
WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 28, 2018
The hypothetical naturalistic origin of life and its most basic biomolecules from non-living matter is called abiogenesis. This paradigm lies at the very foundation of biological evolution, but the immensity of its naturalistic improbability is often brushed aside by evolutionists, who prefer to focus on other facets of evolution that seem less daunting.
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Also, as to mutations. In nature, mutants.. oddballs, generally are shunned by a species, and therefore there “evolutionary” progress would die with them.
Evolution presumes mutants are preferred and therefore spread their (highly) rare mutant gene to eventually produce massive (species jumping lol) change.
What many "Christians" will find out is calling yourself Christians doesn't make you a Christian. There will be many that will Hear from Jesus, "I never knew you". They will be the foolish virgins in Mat 25 that are left behind where they "buy and sell". Most Christians think taking God's name in vain means cussing, but what it really means is calling yourself a Christian while calling Him a liar. Being the Bride of Christ means we take His name, but if you have His name, do you say He lies? A wife would not do that.
In Romans 1:18-32, Paul explains that God will give us up to a debased mind, because we will not admit that He is Creator. He explains that we will think ourselves wise and become fools by doubting Him. Have we given up the use of the woman and have vile passions and are doing things not fitting?
If a preacher told you the cure was to repent( 2 Chron 7:14) and replace evolution with Creationism in school was the cure for the explosion of Homosexuality, would you see the connection or call the preacher a fanatic weirdo? Introducing evolution was the start of the explosion of evil that is overtaking us today. Read verses 28-32 and besides the sodomy thing, all the others are on the rise. Verse 32 tells us those that agree with these things are as guilty as those that do them, so if you vote for homosexuality, you are guilty of homosexuality or abortion, or any of the other sins listed.
Logically speaking, if you disagree with Genesis 1 and 2, exactly how do you logically explain Jesus rising from the grave? Being born of a virgin? Raising Lazarus? Healing the blind, deaf, and cripples? Where do you exactly draw a line? Peter tells us a day is as a thousand years and a thousand years as a day for God. Is he telling the Jews that there will be 6 thousand years and then a "day" of rest will come with Jesus ruling and reigning for 1000 years?
God tells us he uses the foolish things to save us, such as a man living a sinless life, laying it down for our salvation, rising from the dead after 3 days, and ascending into Heaven. Is there anything in that statement that is any more impossible than God speaking the world into existence?
I was born again at 43 and accepted the literal meaning of the Bible, and my Spiritual life suddenly made sense. When you accept what God has written as it's written, you can suddenly see the Spiritual message he is trying to say to His children. If you can't or won't accept it, will you really be His child? If we worry about someone ridiculing us on FR, are we really a believer? I read the Bible several times over and never saw Jesus admit to His followers that they came from apes or pond scum, and the earth is really billions of years old. Satan OTOH, asked Eve, "Did not God say" and then say, God lied and you will not surely die. Did not Satan temp Jesus with His own Scriptures taken out of context and Jesus came back with the Word of God to Satan to send him running? Do you really believe you can call God a liar and ever hear "Well done" good and faithful servant?"
If we follow the Word of God, we see many places where God defied the law of physics. Can a man walk on water? Has a scientist tried to replicate that? They can't replicate even an amino acid formed on its own, so how will life come from non life without supernatural intervention? It is a dangerous game to gamble with your eternal soul because some atheist says the Bible isn't true and it's the dictionary example of lukewarm to take some and leave some. You will not be allowed to be on the fence in your heart.
As far as I can tell a mutation is a birth-defect. A mutation is a failed attempt of replication. It could be due to a stray cosmic ray, due to simple replication error, or perhaps the mother suffered a disease and normal processes were unable to proceed normally. So what are the odds of birth-defect advancement? Not very good.
An ark (tevah) not a boat. An ark is rudderless so effectively it is not under human control.
ML/NJ
As God told us He made the earth and universe in 6 days and rested on the 7th, many pooh pooh that and believe Satan rather than God. You replied so fast after I posted, maybe you should read the post rather than look for a reason you might correct me. The difference between an Ark and a boat was not the aim of the statement. Believing God was.
There is a large quantity of people that say they are Christians and say in the same sentence that Genesis is a lie. Then they spend a half hour trying to massage, twist, and squish, the Word of God to fit some atheists view of science. I wanted to show them what God sees in them, not argue over a boat or an Ark.
True - but the greater the odds for or against an occurrence, the more likely/unlikely it becomes. The odds against a spark hitting some inert materials and making us are hugh and series.
bkmk
How about if God made sure the dice were loaded?
You said, “Doing so, however, does not mean one also must also agree that it all happened ~5700 years ago over a period of six days.”
Just have the honesty to admit that the Bible story of what happened is what you are denying, rather than just assert loudly that it does not mean what it actually says.
>>How about if God made sure the dice were loaded?
Did he need to load the dice because he can’t create a frog out of nothing, or did he load the dice to set up an elaborate lie to confuse us?
I’m not denying it; I’m saying I wasn’t around 7000 years ago to observe “Nothing here, I guess I’ll have to wait a while ‘til God creates the Universe”.
The “Big Bang” theory is generally consistent in form with the Biblical description of the Creation, and there’s plenty of physical evidence to support a theory that the Universe has been around far longer than 5700 years.
Well, nobody claims that all mutations survive, only those that that are beneficial.
He built enough of a back story to give you plausible deniability to delude yourself.
>>He built enough of a back story to give you plausible deniability to delude yourself.
So, he is a liar and people who believe him are stupid?
Whoever wrote it got the sequence right, and what’s more astounding, the timing, with a long, long period for it to get started and then the more complex forms of life all arriving on the same “day.” Someone understood the acceleration that takes place with increased complexity.
Thus the many early winners of the Darwin Award.
Like I was trying to say, that is left for you to decide.
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Do you believe in Magic ???
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>>Like I was trying to say, that is left for you to decide.
>>How about if God made sure the dice were loaded?
God doesn’t load the dice. Satan does that.
The chromosomes themselves aren’t even in error. The ovum is older than the average and divides in a funny way. Usually. It could also be the sperm that is too old (sorry, guys).
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