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ATF special agent talks to Victor students about 2nd Amendment
Canandaigua NY Messenger Post ^ | 03/06/18 | Denise Champagne

Posted on 03/06/2018 4:48:27 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines

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To: OttawaFreeper

The ATF lied repeatedly during the Waco investigation (timeline of the raid, incendiary devices on the last day,etc. etc.).

And no one in the ATF went to prison for the lies.


21 posted on 03/06/2018 5:19:27 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Wear an orange pin to mourn the victims of the Tide Pods Challenge.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

there is something more precious than our children... FREEDOM. what good is protecting our children if they will be enslaved by the ruling class that has kept their guns.

idiot


22 posted on 03/06/2018 5:22:38 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

The Second Amendment was to insure that civilians had fire power more than equal to that of the oppressive government they had to fight in order to remain free. Whatever it takes.


23 posted on 03/06/2018 5:24:31 AM PST by txrefugee
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1934 National Firearms Act that required tax stamps on machine guns, sawed-off shotguns and destructive devices like a pipe bomb.

Wait...WHUT??
Never heard of someone running the paperwork and sending the $200 check for a stamp for a pipe bomb before.
24 posted on 03/06/2018 5:24:45 AM PST by RandallFlagg (Vote for your guns!)
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To: rjsimmon

i thought weimer republic registered the guns and Hitler was able to use the registry to take them...

moot point as in gun control enabled the rise of tyranny...
in either case...

will look up the history soon.

t


25 posted on 03/06/2018 5:27:19 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

When the militia is called up what will we bring to the fight sling shots? This moron doesn’t have a clue what the 2nd means. Maybe he feels the Feds will issue us all a AR when the time comes.


26 posted on 03/06/2018 5:28:49 AM PST by mosaicwolf
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To: a fool in paradise

If the fecal material ever hits the fan we can expect a healthy percentage of these types doing lots of nefarious stuff.


27 posted on 03/06/2018 5:34:08 AM PST by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
“My stance, as an ATF agent, is if they say this is the law, I’m going to enforce it,” Martineck said

My name is Reichsführer Heinrich Himmler, and I approve of this message.

28 posted on 03/06/2018 5:36:02 AM PST by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Wow, an anti-2A ATF agent activist. I’m shocked. Not.


29 posted on 03/06/2018 5:38:55 AM PST by TADSLOS (Alex Jones isnÂ’t quite the wing nut now, all things considered.)
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To: Campion

How queer, it was inaction in law enforcement by Gov. Moonbeam Brown that forced same sex marriage on the nation (the Supremacist Court rejected the “standing” of those who petitioned for the ballot measure and the State refused to defend the ballot measure they personally opposed).


30 posted on 03/06/2018 5:39:26 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Wear an orange pin to mourn the victims of the Tide Pods Challenge.)
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To: TADSLOS

A jackbooted thug and proud of it.

If he comes knocking for your semi-autos, you know what to do.


31 posted on 03/06/2018 5:41:49 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: teeman8r

Also, read the double-speak from these ghouls when the topic about abortion comes up.

He’s about “enforcing the law” right?

When the time comes to start killing Christians - I bet he complies since that’s “his job” - to enforce the “law”.


32 posted on 03/06/2018 5:43:49 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (This country & world is living on borrowed time (Luke 17:26-27))
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

After being continuosly being told how ‘special’ they are and collecting a wall full of participation trophies, they’re definitely ready to make national policy.


33 posted on 03/06/2018 5:57:43 AM PST by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
...Martineck said, noting he personally believes no one but police and military should have assault weapons.

And I personally believe Jack-booted thugs such as yourself should find another job.

The writers of the US Constitution never envisioned an out of control agency of ATF-shitheads, either, yet, here you are.

Worthless turd.

34 posted on 03/06/2018 6:09:45 AM PST by OldSmaj (The only thing washed on a filthy liberal is their damned brains.)
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1934 National Firearms Act that required tax stamps on machine guns, sawed-off shotguns and destructive devices like a pipe bomb. Wait...WHUT?? Never heard of someone running the paperwork and sending the $200 check for a stamp for a pipe bomb before.

Yes, you can make your own Destructive Device/Pipe Bomb if you have an Type 10FFL/02 SOT and Form 1 a pipe bomb.

You can buy one HERE

35 posted on 03/06/2018 6:11:02 AM PST by DCBryan1 (Quit calling them liberals, progressives, or Democrats. Call them what they are: COMMUNISTS!)
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To: rjsimmon; Behind Liberal Lines

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And therein lies the problem. His belief leaves the citizenry completely at the mercy of those that are armed. Target rich environment and makes We The People nothing more than peons. This ATF agent needs to find employment elsewhere.
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What do you expect when:

1) One ‘works’ for the govt
2) One’s job is to enforce the ‘law’, though it clearly violates the Constitution.
2b) Sounds like he’d had NO problem enforcing any other ‘lawful’ order(s), though it might violate OTHER Rights (aka confiscation), or shooting into an unarmed crowd, or...

IE: Sounds like he knows whom butters his bread and prob. enjoys the power-rush.


36 posted on 03/06/2018 6:11:34 AM PST by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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To: a fool in paradise
And no one in the ATF went to prison for the lies MURDERS.
37 posted on 03/06/2018 6:14:01 AM PST by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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“My stance, as an ATF agent, is if they say this is the law, I’m going to enforce it,” Martineck said...

Spoken like a true Nazi.

". . . It was my misfortune to become entangled in these atrocities. But these misdeeds did not happen according to my wishes. It was not my wish to slay people. . . . Once again I would stress that I am guilty of having been obedient, having subordinated myself to my official duties..."Adolf Eichmann-1961

"The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible to him." Principle IV- Nuremberg Trials

38 posted on 03/06/2018 6:22:14 AM PST by Jed Eckert
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To: DCBryan1

Well, now. That’s pretty sweet.


39 posted on 03/06/2018 6:25:58 AM PST by RandallFlagg (Vote for your guns!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Fascinating that BATFE agent is a constitutional law expert. Perhaps Martineck sound read some USSC rulings regarding firearms as well as read Federalist Paper 46 and Federalist Paper 29.


40 posted on 03/06/2018 6:34:07 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine's brother (Crush the Democrats; see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of the girly men.)
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