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US credit card debt tops $1 trillion for the first time
Washington Times ^ | 3/9/18 | Joseph Lawler

Posted on 03/09/2018 8:20:34 AM PST by NohSpinZone

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To: MeganC
Same here which means most people have way over that $8600 reported amount.

More consumer debt is not necessarily a bad thing, as it means that families are confident enough in their finances to make new purchases.

Uh, no, it is a bad thing. Chaaaarge it!!!

41 posted on 03/09/2018 9:48:03 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: NohSpinZone

Damn, I gotta go charge 8600.00 bucks to get even with everyone.


42 posted on 03/09/2018 9:48:50 AM PST by TalBlack (It's hard to shoot people when they are shooting back at you...)
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To: BinaryBoy

One would think the local loan shark has lower interest rates. Of course, he doesn’t allow debt to mount.


43 posted on 03/09/2018 9:50:24 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: DeFault User

Oh, for the days when money market accounts were paying 17%. When it’s down to 1-2%, it not an incentive to save.


44 posted on 03/09/2018 9:55:37 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: NohSpinZone

I use a credit card because you pretty much have to in this day and age. But its paid off every month. If I can’t pay off the card, I don’t buy it.


45 posted on 03/09/2018 9:57:40 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: NohSpinZone

I shake my head at those commericals where the people think a credit rating of 750 is good. Anything under 800 is bad, imo.

Anyone know what a debt of that $8600 would be?


46 posted on 03/09/2018 10:01:58 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: NohSpinZone

Unsecured debt!


47 posted on 03/09/2018 10:03:15 AM PST by sickoflibs (Vote Trump for Gun safety!)
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To: GreenHornet

lmao


48 posted on 03/09/2018 10:44:24 AM PST by al baby (Hi Mom Hi Dad)
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To: trebb

Ditto :-) I used to get gift cards when discover would give you a $50 gift card for $40. Since nobody does that anymore, I just apply the cash back to my balance. Sadly, I can still get a higher percentage in cash back then I can in a money market or CD. I’m old enough that being in the stock market is too risky. One more downturn and there would go our retirement!


49 posted on 03/09/2018 12:13:52 PM PST by CottonBall (Thank you, Julian!)
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To: NohSpinZone

“Ramsey says that studies show consumers tend to spend 18 to 20% more when using plastic vs. paper - using cash triggers some pain mechanisms in our brain. ”

I didn’t know that. I guess since I’m the one that handles all our finances, I see money the same whether it’s paper or plastic or over the Internet or a debt. I just see my spreadsheet of financial calculations in my mind :-) But I imagine a lot of people are also very visual, so spending that paper money has more of an impact.

I told my son to check out Dave Ramsey a while ago. I’m hoping he did.


50 posted on 03/09/2018 12:16:15 PM PST by CottonBall (Thank you, Julian!)
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To: CottonBall
Yep - when I retired a little over 3 years ago, I decided I couldn't take another big hit with the funds so I went into some guaranteed annuities through Allianz Insurance (friend is my investment guy). They guarantee 6% (- .12% fees and it's guaranteed straight 4.8%) and if the market hits zero, I don't lose any principle. There are attachments that make it earn more if the market goes up - this year mine went up about 18%.

It takes a few years to mature and be totally soluble but we have income enough that the IRAs are for "lagniappe" money and we'll probably only take minimum required outlays when we reach the magic 70-1/2 ages. After the first year one can take up to 10% w/o penalty and either decide to take sporadic on-demand payments or set up a specific regular flow.

Not trying to sell you anything - just saying there are avenues out there to protect your money and make more than banks are paying.

51 posted on 03/10/2018 2:34:04 AM PST by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrites who pose as conservatives...mostly ;-})
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Sorry for the long delay, I have been trying to research Allianz I knew it is. There’s not a whole lot of specific information on their website. At one time, probably a decade ago, I did look into annuities. But the one insurance company I was dealing with couldn’t show me how they got the 5% they promised. It was like yours, a base value that they guaranteed, and it could be increased with market upswings.

But in looking at the calculations on the spreadsheet and their brochures, I didn’t get anywhere near the 5%, more like 3%. A friend of ours who was happy with his 8% – when I looked at his numbers it was more like 5%. Anyway those insurance gurus couldn’t explain any of it. So I passed.

Would be fine with getting 5% these days! My only concern is if we have hyper inflation. But 5% would still net us enough to live on so that would be great. The good ol’ days were when I had 5% CDs! I’m waiting for Trump to turn those out again. Or to make the Fed quit squashing interest rates , i mean


52 posted on 03/12/2018 6:29:27 PM PDT by CottonBall (Thank you, Julian!)
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To: trebb

‘I knew it is’ = annuities

The interpretation of dictation is sometimes interesting :-)


53 posted on 03/12/2018 6:49:45 PM PDT by CottonBall (Thank you, Julian!)
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