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Thank goodness his privacy wasn't violated by the therapist huh? Did a search and this didn't pop up so..........
1 posted on 03/11/2018 8:37:29 AM PDT by rktman
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As with the Aurora theater shooter.....


2 posted on 03/11/2018 8:42:10 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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...administrators developed a “safety plan” to ensure the welfare of Cruz and others while the teen was on summer vacation.

How'd that plan work out for ya? Methinks you got some part of it wrong.

3 posted on 03/11/2018 8:43:58 AM PDT by econjack
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So, much like the alphabet agencies that failed to do their jobs an put this psychopath on the NICS no-buy list, this therapist is ALSO an accessory to the murders.

Gee... sure glad the system is working./s


4 posted on 03/11/2018 8:46:32 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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Typical Lefties. Protect the guilty. Punish the innocent.


6 posted on 03/11/2018 8:52:59 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>)
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He smiled and told the therapist that sometimes he says things for shock value.

You can bet his shyster lawyers will be pleading the "marshmallow" defense. This would appear to prove that he ISN'T crazy. IMHO.

7 posted on 03/11/2018 8:53:03 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (#NotARussianBot)
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I’m quite sure had anything been done proactively, cries of racism would abound, and Cruz would be the poster child for Trump’s rounding up “Hispanics”. The Left saw to it this kid never stood a chance.


8 posted on 03/11/2018 8:54:27 AM PDT by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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And as usual, no one in government or anyone privy to this lunatic’s situation is held responsible.

The solution posited is further restrictions on personal liberty and freedom. And the idiot politicians oblige.


9 posted on 03/11/2018 8:54:28 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (My "White Privilege" is my work ethic.)
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>>The plan included provisions for removing “all sharp objects from the home”

Tell me how one accoplishes this, please. This is complete pie in the sky bull squeeze at a typical home. Food preparation involves sharp items. Lawn care involves sharp objects. Tool boxes typically involve sharp objects. The list goes on and on.

And there is the plain fact that humans are inventive creatures. Many non-sharp normal, everyday objects can easily be made so, or used as a weapon as-is, no sharpening required. A baseball bat comes to mind as a common item thus.

Boilerplate text in a psych eval that protects the evaluator but does nothing of any practical use.


10 posted on 03/11/2018 8:56:07 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To the No Fly List and No Guns List, we really should have a No Consultation List to keep people away from therapists who are too stupid to give advice to others.


11 posted on 03/11/2018 8:59:43 AM PDT by txrefugee
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I call B.S. on the herald.


13 posted on 03/11/2018 9:02:47 AM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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Nut had 4 years of history showing he would do this:
- School and local officials did nothing. FBI did nothing.
- Law enforcement stood down during crisis, resulting in more deaths
- Those would did enter the school have been ‘disciplined’
- Millions of FL citizens have their gun ownership rights eliminated
- The local and national authorities, as well as school system are scott-free.

This sums up the situation as best I see it.


14 posted on 03/11/2018 9:03:33 AM PDT by ilgipper
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A sea of red flags and everyone sat on their hands.
The dead and wounded were sacrificed on the altar of progressive political correctness.
NO ONE will stand up and say “we screwed up”, everyone of them is in CYA mode.


16 posted on 03/11/2018 9:05:47 AM PDT by oldvirginian ("The people built this country. And it is the people who are making America great again.” D TRUMP)
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Dont blame the therapists. They are governed by HIPAA privacy rules. This falls squarely on Sheriff Israel, the Broward Schools and the FBI...the Miami Herald wants to distract the public from that fact yet again


18 posted on 03/11/2018 9:07:48 AM PDT by montag813
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Portions of his psychiatric file, obtained by the Miami Herald on Friday


A criminal violation right there.


20 posted on 03/11/2018 9:16:19 AM PDT by Flick Lives
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These damn physco trists do nothing but paperwork and collect a very big paycheck.


23 posted on 03/11/2018 9:24:05 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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These records are not released without the patient’s permission. Now, maybe Florida is unique? My guess is his defense counsel sees a benefit here.

Long before HIPPA we have believed in confidentiality and privacy of medical records, and I don't want to see that eroded by the rush to do something.

Looking backward it is easier to see what eventually happened and to speculate. It's not so easy looking forward.

32 posted on 03/11/2018 10:07:11 AM PDT by PsyCon
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All signs point to they wanted this to happen.


34 posted on 03/11/2018 10:44:21 AM PDT by Trillian
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Well its all fixed now. Nobody in Fla can get a rifle til age 21. That should take care of everything. (S)


36 posted on 03/11/2018 11:10:02 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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The therapist apparently did tell the school and they had their little plans in place. While he was attending.

Once he left, the schools don’t consider ex students to be a viable threat. Nor would they consider him a threat if he lived in the area and never attended that school. Clearly, people could enter that campus who didn’t belong on there at all, with weapons. THERE is your problem.

There are two issues not to confound here. Our country / state / community handling of mentally ill people is one issue. School students being kept safe is another.

My solutions: let it be known that every public school in America will be armed and you won’t always know exactly how. And high schools should have metal detectors, maybe middle schools too. Every school should have a formal entrance and schools should stagger arrival times and leaving times so there is no gridlock. Absolutely no one should get in without passing security in an outright or hidden form.

For the mental heath problems, I have tons of ideas. For brevity’s sake, right now, I’d like to see smaller, more well to do cities or towns step up and experiment. More interaction, forced visit from social worker, threat assessments, forced connection therapy (failure to respond to kind affection/interest from a therapist and possibly a group should result in something drastic, thus ridding the town of sociopaths). And I do think we need a longer period of time to be able to hold people against their will who suffer with acute loss of reality. But the mental illness issue (which seems like a brain damage occurring prenatally, in this guy’s history) is one we need to seriously work on, taking danger to self and others as top priority.

But the schools need to be safe.


40 posted on 03/11/2018 12:58:25 PM PDT by Yaelle
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