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Why Democrats Would Lose the Second Civil War, Too
Townhall.com ^ | March 12, 2018 | Kurt Schlichter

Posted on 03/11/2018 9:08:18 PM PDT by Kaslin

It’s obvious that the central tenet of the Democrat Party platform is now hatred and contempt for Normal Americans. Taking their cue from the elites in Europe and Canada who are stripping dissenters of their free speech rights and religious freedoms, the leftist elite is moving to solidify its hold on power here with the eager assistance of tech companies and the moral support of the Fredocons who yearn to return to pseudo-relevance as the ruling class’s slobberingly loyal opposition. In California, the leftist government is practically firing on Fort Sumter. And nationally, these aspiring fascists are especially eager to disarm Normal Americans – doing so would be an object lesson in who’s the boss, as well as solving that frustrating problem of the Normals having the ability to resist.

Probably because I’ve spent time where they actually had a civil war, many people ask me – people whose names you know – whether I think this turmoil will all end in a Second Civil War. They are seriously concerned, and not without cause – the left’s hatred for Normal Americans and its dedication to totally stripping the people who are the backbone of this country of their ability to participate in their own governance is threatening to rip the country apart.

Do I think there will be a civil war? No, but there could be. This is the Age of Black Swans, and anything is possible – we could easily see the country split into red and blue. Civil war is unlikely, but never underestimate Democrat stupidity and hatred. The Schlichter family learned that lesson a century and half ago, the last time the Democrats decided to try to impose their hatred of basic human rights on the rest of the country, when an army of Democrats burned our family hometown

Oh, they paid for it. And they would pay again. Democrats are 0-1 in insurrections, and if they went for another round, they would be 0-2. It’s a matter of terrain, numbers, and morale.

Democrats, who think history began when Obama was elected, don’t understand the dangerous game they are playing when they talk about how they want to impose their brown shirt vision upon red America. The keyboard commandos of the left seek to hand wave away the massive strategic challenge of imposing control by force upon a well-armed, decentralized citizenry occupying the vast majority of the territory, so they babble about drones and tanks as counterinsurgency trump cards. But there are no trump cards in war. There are men, with rifles, standing on patches of dirt, killing the people trying to push them off. That’s the ugly reality of war. And multiply the usual brutality of war by ten when it’s a civil war.

There are two Civil War II scenarios, and the left is poorly positioned to prevail in either one. The first scenario is that the Democrats take power and violate the Constitution in order to use the apparatus of the federal government to suppress and oppress Normal Americans. In that scenario, red Americans are the insurgents. In the second scenario, which we can even now see the stirrings of in California’s campaign to nullify federal immigration law, it is the blue states that are the insurgents.

The Democrats lose both wars. Big time.

Let’s talk terrain and numbers. Remember the famous red v. blue voting map? There is a lot of red, and in the interior the few blue splotches are all cities like Las Vegas or Denver. That is a lot of territory for a counter-insurgent force to control, and this is critical. The red is where the food is grown, the oil pumped, and through which everything is transported. And that red space is filled with millions of American citizens with small arms, a fairly large percentage of whom have military training.

Remember what two untrained idiots did in Boston with a couple of pistols? They shut a city down. Now multiply that by several million, with better weapons and training.

Let’s look at the counter-insurgent forces in the Democrat oppression scenario should they attempt to misuse our law enforcement and military in an unconstitutional manner to take the rights of American citizens. There are a lot of civilian law enforcement officers, but the vast majority of the agencies are local – sheriffs, small town police departments. They will not be reliable allies in supporting unlawful oppression of their friends and neighbors. The major cities’ police departments are run by Democrat appointees, so the commands would be loyal. But the rank-and-file? A small percentage would be ideologically loyal. More would be loyal because that’s their paycheck – they could be swayed or intimidated to support the rebels. Others would be actively sympathetic to the insurgents. This is true of federal law enforcement agencies as well.

And the military? Well, wouldn’t the military just crush any resistance? Not so fast. The military would have the combat power to win any major engagement, but insurgents don’t get into major engagements with forces that have more combat power. They instead leverage their decentralized ability to strike at the counter-insurgents’ weak points to eliminate the government’s firepower advantage. In other words, hit and run, and no stand-up fights.

For example, how do a bunch of hunters in Wisconsin defeat a company of M1A2 Abrams tanks? They ambush the fuel and ammo trucks. Oh, and they wait until the gunner pops the hatch to take a leak and put a .30-06 round in his back from 300 meters. Then they disappear. What do the tanks do then? Go level the nearest town? Great. Now they just moved the needle in favor of the insurgents among the population. Pretty soon, they can’t be outside of their armored vehicles in public. Their forces are spending 90% of their efforts not on actual counter-insurgency operations but on force protection. Sure, they own their forward operating bases, and they own a few hundred meters around them wherever they happen to be standing at the moment, but the rest of the territory is bright red. As my recent novel illustrates, American guerillas with small arms are a deadly threat to the forces of a dictatorship.

But the military is so big it would overwhelm any rebels, right? Well, how big do you think the military is? And, more importantly, how many actual boots on the ground can it deploy? Let’s put it in terms of brigade combat teams, which total about 4,500 troops each. There are about 60 brigades in the Army, active and reserve, here and abroad, and let’s give the Marines another 10 brigades, for about 70 brigades. Sounds impressive. But that’s deceptive.

Let’s put aside a big consideration – the existence of red states that would provide for an insurgent government structure and possibly attract the loyalty of some National Guard and even federal brigades. For example, if President Hillary Clinton put down her chardonnay long enough to sign a ban on privately owned guns, it’s not unreasonable to expect the governor of Texas to reject federal authority – after all, California just taught us that this is totally cool. But in this case, look for several brigades located there to hoist the Lone Star flag.

So, now the blue states are facing unconventional and conventional forces.

Let’s ignore that problem and focus on a different challenge. Even a normal unit has about 10% non-deployable members. Now, if these troops were assigned to combat operations against other Americans, you would have significant additional losses through desertion. Many of the senior leaders would participate – the Obama generation – and there is a certain type of junior officer only too happy to curry favor by sucking up in defiance of their oath (which is to the Constitution, not to some leftist president). You can identify them because they usually have “strategist” in their Twitter bios. But a lot of key, capable officer and NCO leaders, and enlisted troops, would vanish. That is proper. It is a violation of their oath to unconstitutionally oppress fellow Americans; their duty would be to refuse such unlawful orders.

So, you have significantly understrength units going in. Now, how many of the troops in a brigade are actually even front line combat troops? About a third – the rest are support. So a brigade is really about 1500 riflemen tops before you count losses. Cut those in half for sleep, training, and refitting at any one time (which is very generous) and your brigade is really 750 troops on your best day with everyone showing up. Realistically, it’s 300.

That holds one mid-sized town. And there are hundreds of mid-sized towns. Plus there are millions of Normal Americans who would fight back. Nothing would move without their permission – a few guys shooting up big rigs along the interstate would shut down the entire trucking industry. Bottom line: there simply are not enough military forces to clear and hold red America.

What about drones and bombers? Both are useful. But the minute a bombing strike kills some red civilians the families of counter-insurgent drone operators and pilots will be knocking at the base gates to be let inside. Now you’ll need many of those brigades to protect the civilians you now need to protect from retribution.

Civil wars are harsh. That’s why you avoid them.

How about the blue insurgency scenario? That goes even worse for the Democrats. You have the federal government apparatus in the hands of red America, and the insurgents are the opposite of decentralized and armed. They are conveniently centered in gun-unfriendly blue cities. In other words, the blue civilian population is much less of a threat.

A red counter-insurgency avoids the problem of a decentralized insurgency and insecure logistical lines. In the case of California, whose secessionist antics are approaching the point where President Trump could legitimately employ his power to crush insurrections, the tactical problem is relatively simple. For example, San Francisco is a hotbed of treason, but the populace is largely unarmed and is trapped in a confined area. You put a brigade on securing the Golden Gate and Bay Bridges, then put a brigade on the San Francisco Peninsula to cut off the I-280 and US-101 corridors. Next you go to the Crystal Springs Dam and cut off the water. Then you watch and wait as the tech hipsters run out of artisanal sushi rice and kombucha.

After about a week, they surrender. After all, you can’t eat and drink smugness. LA is just bigger in scope – more corridors to cut off, but in the end the population concentrations in large liberal urban areas that are their strength also make them extremely vulnerable to logistical pressure.

Then there’s another factor, an intangible but a crucial one. It’s commitment. The Democrat threat to peace is based on its policies designed to deprive Normal Americans of their right to speak freely, to worship freely, and to defend themselves and their rights with firearms. Make no mistake – millions of Normal Americans are willing to risk death to defend those rights. In fact, many swore to do so when they entered our military and law enforcement. But who is the leftist big talker willing to die to impose the fascist dream of censorship, religious oppression, and disarmament on Normal American citizens? Is the screeching SJW at Yale going to suit up in Kevlar? Is the Vox columnist going to grab a M4? Is the Hollywood poser going to switch her gyno-beanie for a helmet?

No. Hell, we just heard our liberal opponents explaining why a cop shouldn’t be expected to go fight a scumbag murdering kids because it’s scary. America might split apart, but it’s highly unlikely Team Kale n’ Vinyl would fight should their big talk finally push Normal America too far.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: calltgeavengers; civilwar; cw2; cwii; cwiiping; democrats
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To: qaz123
If my nephews are any indication of the mindset held by your common, combat Soldier or Marine, there won’t be much of military for the Mexican’s to join.

Yes, that is often overlooked. Also overlooked are the men like my son and his friends who are recently out of the military. Think of how many soldiers are currently in service vs. the number of men who are out...of any age.

81 posted on 03/12/2018 6:28:52 AM PDT by jdsteel (Americans are Dreamers too!!!)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
The new People’s Republic of California would quickly become an iron Communist state—looters shot, firm laws, prisons armed and conscripted into the People’s Revolutionary Army. Guns banned, food rationed, Internet down and controlled. The State needs things—they would take them. A wall would be built by California at the border-TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM ESCAPING TO MEXICO!

But before this could happen, the government of the People's Republic of California would have to win a civil war to subdue the "red" counties in Northern and Eastern California, most of whose citizens will rally to the Stars and Stripes. Since these areas are full of gun owners and military veterans, Sacramento would likely be at a disadvantage and would have to look abroad for military aid.

But they wouldn't have to wait long. Cuba would be eager to provide military assistance, and China and maybe Russia would likely chip in as well, and the European Union would provide generous economic aid. Meanwhile, most of the world's nations would open embassies in Sacramento and California would be welcomed into the United Nations.

82 posted on 03/12/2018 6:29:29 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: marktwain

“There would be lots of Mexicans willing to fill ranks in the U.S. Army and Marines...”

The Mexican army can’t even control small towns in their state of Guerrero. The people there formed local, armed militias to protect themselves. How would a Mexicanized army control small towns in America?

Check it out:

Mexican Vigilantes Stand Up Against Crime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XiSnCt9fDc


83 posted on 03/12/2018 6:31:47 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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To: Kaslin

In a Dem insurgency, all Trump would need to accomplish is cut off federal funds. As soon as the EBT cards stop working, the Dem areas would burn.


84 posted on 03/12/2018 6:40:32 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big governent is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: qaz123

There is nothing more devastating than fire from a concealed .306 shooter from which there is no relief, and no answer.


85 posted on 03/12/2018 6:46:03 AM PDT by Salvavida (The Missouri citizen's militia sends its regards.)
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To: Hardastarboard

Folks say the Chinese don’t have the ability to move their armies overseas, but I posit their state-owned shipping company can be used for that purpose.

Because as we all know, their government owns a giant container shipping company.

However, they lack a large Ro-Ro capacity. That handicaps them greatly.

Many scenarios involving Chinese intervention has them staging in Mexico. That makes things a lot simpler for them.


86 posted on 03/12/2018 6:47:05 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan
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To: NonValueAdded

“AAAAVENNNNNGE MEEEEE!”


87 posted on 03/12/2018 6:51:05 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan
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To: Kaslin

“”we just heard our liberal opponents explaining why a cop shouldn’t be expected to go fight a scumbag murdering kids because it’s scary””

Pretty much what Panetta said (one of the things he said) about not sending help to Benghazi - TOO RISKY!


88 posted on 03/12/2018 6:53:22 AM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: akalinin

International military intervention would galvanize both sides against this international nonsense. And ESPECIALLY any communists. An insane idea for sure.


89 posted on 03/12/2018 7:09:13 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: marktwain
Do you think Obama or successors would have any compunction on calling for NATO or Chinese “peacekeepers” to pacify U.S. rural areas?

It would cause more problems than it would solve.

Many Confederate states didn't join until Lincoln called for 75,000 volunteers to "crush the rebellion".

How many of those on the fence would welcome their own government having communist soldiers/foreign soldiers killing Americans in America?

I'd wager not many.

"A rifle behind every blade of grass."
Admiral Yamamoto, 1941

That's what the commies and foreigners would have to contend with.

However...

Your major point about not being complacent is still true.

90 posted on 03/12/2018 7:13:58 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Keep fighting the Left and their Fake News!)
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To: qaz123

The Narcos are getting trained by military vets.

They are getting better.


91 posted on 03/12/2018 7:14:17 AM PDT by redgolum
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
"Wrong—The new People’s Republic of California would quickly become an iron Communist state."

You do have a point.....

92 posted on 03/12/2018 7:16:40 AM PDT by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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To: redgolum

Make no mistake, the fanatics on the left would be content with the USA turned into a wasteland. With that in mind, the outcome of a civil war may hinge on which side has the ‘nuclear briefcase’. In other words, which side represents the government and which side adopts the position of revolutionary when the war breaks out. The left would use any method at its disposal to defeat the right. Notice I didn’t say ‘to win’, but to ‘defeat the right’. This means using poison, mass killings, even going nuclear. Much easier to do when you don’t consider you enemy to be human...


93 posted on 03/12/2018 7:27:02 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: sparklite2

Atheism is as much (if not more) a belief system as any religion, it’s just nihilistic instead of uplifting.

IMHO, YMMV.


94 posted on 03/12/2018 7:50:40 AM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: KrisKrinkle

“It won’t be State against State, it’ll be neighborhood against neighborhood.”

One look at your local county voting rolls (often available online), and you’ll see it will be neighbor vs neighbor.

Not good.


95 posted on 03/12/2018 7:53:57 AM PDT by moovova
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To: Wonder Warthog

“WTF is the “EBT system”?
ALWAYS define your acronyms at least once, preferably the first time you use them.”

= = = = = =

WTF is “WTF”?


96 posted on 03/12/2018 8:16:43 AM PDT by moovova
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To: marktwain

With regard to the govt forces Mr. GG2 always says “they gotta come out of that armored truck sometime”.


97 posted on 03/12/2018 8:57:08 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Wonder Warthog

EBT (Electronic Benefits Transfer) is the modern digital implementation of food stamps.

Extra bonus trivia: the program is run by JP Morgan. So if you hear a joke about JPM cheering some terrible economic news it’s referring to this.


98 posted on 03/12/2018 8:57:12 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 0)
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To: Hardastarboard
The Chinese showed little respect for Obama... In this scenario it's more likely the Chinese would side with us - not with liberals.
99 posted on 03/12/2018 8:59:10 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrats want to get rid of ICE to 'protect' illegals & to Hell with Americans. - SunkenCiv)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
fieldmarshalj: "Red Americans are Communist-Fascists.
I’m a Conservative Blue, not a Commie Red.
I cringe when I see intelligent people using the Orwellian media newspeak..."

Thank Tim Russert, NBC News, for relabeling red-blooded conservatives as "red" and blue-bellied leftists as "blue".
It irks me too, that it's always the Left controlling the language and forcing us to go along with whatever new definitions they dream up today.

On the other hand, Southerners before Russert were red Democrats, now they're red Republicans, probably not terribly upset about that, do you think?

100 posted on 03/12/2018 9:04:01 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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