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What Did You Learn About the Second Amendment in History Class?
The Truth About Guns ^ | 03/19/18 | Robert Farago

Posted on 03/19/2018 10:53:16 AM PDT by Simon Green

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To: Simon Green

1. Fun!

2. To retain the right to defeat totalitarian government.

3. None of your business; it’s a perfected Right in the Bill of Rights.

4. Tell me what anyone needs the Free Speech for?


21 posted on 03/19/2018 11:38:12 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Demographics destroys cultures more completely than thermonuclear war.)
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To: Simon Green

A compound modifier with an adverb, like “grmatically challenged,” does not take a hyphen,


22 posted on 03/19/2018 11:38:41 AM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors (at the time of election!)
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To: Simon Green

Actually the Second Amendment was only mentioned 50 to 60 years ago. The only reference was that we had the right, with few exceptions, to keep and bear arms and that we may need to use them for defense of the nation and / or Constitution. Our WWII vet mentors taught us about how terrible war is and how necessary it can be but killing is to be profaned until absolutely necessary. As for what we were taught in school, it followed the same line.

We gave absolutely no thought at all to AR-15s or AK-47s or anything of the sort. Nobody had them because they weren’t around or felt they needed a combat type weapon including a fully auto M-1 carbine. Sure, we thought the Thompson was cool but it was for war not for what we needed to do. Arms training, for those of us that had it, was one shot and one kill. Spray and pray of any sort was frowned on and marksmanship and precision were prized. I never even fired a gun with a clip until I left home and bought one.

I hunted upland game birds just about every weekend during season from the time I was 5 and started with a Stevens bolt action 410 moving up to a double 12 at about that age. I was big for my age but was awfully tired at the end of a day’s hunt after packing that thing around but I got used to it. Never owned an automatic shot gun. Never found a use for more than two shots on a covey rise.

Bolt actions were favored for rifles and we knew the difference between different types of lock-ups. Even semi-automatics were scorned in our home. My .22 was an Ithica single shot drop block with iron sights of course. Scopes were something else we never had or thought we really needed. My little carry gun here on the farm is a Ruger 77 22 but it does now have a little scope as compensation for my aging eyes. Firepower was not in our vocabulary. I figured if my WWII combat vet family members were good with what we had I should be too.

I had a gun rack in my pickup in high school and carried a shotgun and often rifle since I may want to hunt before or after school. Other guys did the same thing. We nor anybody else gave a thought to what might happen.


23 posted on 03/19/2018 11:40:13 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: beaversmom

That’s a good story, too.

Yes, common sense ruled and there were more good, decent people then.


24 posted on 03/19/2018 11:44:02 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Simon Green

If I remember my history, sometime in the 1840s Georgia banned handguns. This was later thrown out by the STATE Supreme Court because it VIOLATED the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution.

The SCOTUS, in the Dred Scott Decision listed the PERSONAL rights citizens have and one of them was “Then right to keep and carry arms wherever they went.”


25 posted on 03/19/2018 11:49:27 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Re-open the insane asylums, stop drugging the kids.)
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To: HangnJudge
It one 10 principals delineated by the bill of rights no more, or less important than the others

Without the 2nd, the other 9 are subject to the whims of whatever the powers that be want.

26 posted on 03/19/2018 11:49:56 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: Simon Green

In my “enriched” history class in a high school in upstate NY(1980), we got the whole truth with readings from the federalist papers and other writs as well. The teacher was a drunk but had no real opinion left or right, just made sure we understood the reasoning behind the bill of rights and the 2nd amendment. The citizens were to be allowed to keep their weapons to assist as needed with the defense of their persons, families, local towns, and the nation if need be as well as to act as a counter balance to a government should it become too tyrannical in its dealing with its citizens.


27 posted on 03/19/2018 11:54:01 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Men and Devils can't out-"alinsksy" God! He knows where "all the bodies are buried!")
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To: Army Air Corps; All
"In my US history classes in junior high and high school, my teachers presented the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution as a political [??? emphasis added] right.

Thank you for posting Army Air Corps.

Did your history teachers ever mention the reason for the fed’s constitutionally limited powers, such powers not including the power to make civil gun laws?

"From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.

28 posted on 03/19/2018 12:04:19 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: yarddog

Dr. Smith was lame and didn’t give good value for the cost of his class.


29 posted on 03/19/2018 12:06:54 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: yarddog
When I was in college at Troy, one of our history textbooks flat out said the 2nd amendment did not guarantee a right to keep and bear arms.

That is technically correct, the Second amendment did not give you a right to own arms, it declared that you had a God given right to own firearms and that the Government could not take them away from you.

30 posted on 03/19/2018 12:22:29 PM PDT by itsahoot (There will be division, as long as there is money to be divided.)
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To: Lisbon1940
“grmatically challenged,” does not take a hyphen,

How about "spellingly challenged?"

31 posted on 03/19/2018 12:30:34 PM PDT by itsahoot (There will be division, as long as there is money to be divided.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

4. Tell me what anyone needs the Free Speech for?


...and which has resulted in more deaths, free speech or the right to bear arms?


32 posted on 03/19/2018 12:34:43 PM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
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To: ConservativeWarrior

“Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas.”

Joseph Stalin.


33 posted on 03/19/2018 12:42:50 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Simon Green

I moved around a bunch as a kid, and all the way through high school. I’m hard pressed to recall ever having deep discussions about 2A. My father was the best civics teacher i ever had, and i’m eternally grateful.

I’m paying it forward dad.

~W


34 posted on 03/19/2018 1:42:59 PM PDT by wheresmyusa
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To: Sequoyah101

... needed a combat type weapon including a fully auto M-1 carbine.


Not to be too picky, but isn’t your full auto M1 carbine actually an M2?


35 posted on 03/19/2018 2:35:26 PM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: Simon Green

In my American History and my Civics classes, I teach that the 2nd Amendment recognizes an individual right to bear arms, because the Founders wanted to avoid a government that had a monopoly on lethal force.


36 posted on 03/19/2018 3:29:28 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: Simon Green

Nothing. Or I wasn’t paying attention.

One or the other.


37 posted on 03/19/2018 3:31:15 PM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: Simon Green

That girl doesn’t know or understand the difference between kill and murder.

The AR-15 can be used to kill tyrants and their forces, or people who break into my house or property.

But not to murder anyone.


38 posted on 03/19/2018 3:33:10 PM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: Simon Green

Also, she doesn’t know or understand that regardless of your need, or lack of need, to use an AR-15, your God given right to purchase, keep, and bear an AR-15 is not diminished.


39 posted on 03/19/2018 3:36:00 PM PDT by savedbygrace
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My last thought on that photo is: I strongly suspect that, even though her little sign is asking for someone to tell her, if you began to tell her, she would not let you finish telling her. LOL!


40 posted on 03/19/2018 3:37:56 PM PDT by savedbygrace
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