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1 posted on 03/28/2018 4:56:05 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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The secret police are here and we let them in....


2 posted on 03/28/2018 4:57:33 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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I am under no illusion that Apple is much better but I don’t use Android, gmail on a regular basis, don’t use Chrome on mobile, don’t use Google hangouts, instant messenger, groups, don’t use Picasso (Photo service.) or much else by them.

However... and this is the big but. I use them for search.

Still I’m not surprised by what they save. Their meta data alone could sink any single person that ever wanted to run for office, was a public personality or a business adversary. Not to mention how they could throw it into performance reviews of their employees.

It’s beyond time to regulate (I hate to say that.) or break up Facebook, Amazon and Alphabet. They are worse than US Steel, Standard, JP Morgan or AT&T.

Those companies may have maximized what they could earn from their customers. These new hi tech robber barons just want to own you and everything you do.


3 posted on 03/28/2018 5:07:48 AM PDT by PittsburghAfterDark (The American media: We do what the Soviet media did without the guns to our head.)
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Hmm. I don’t have a FB account and I don’t use Google, preferring Bing.. It would be interesting to see how much they have...


4 posted on 03/28/2018 5:09:33 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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Great post—this is information every single person on the planet should know—and that is why they _won’t_ teach it in any public school or university.

These corporations are a blight on the human race and need to be trust busted.


6 posted on 03/28/2018 5:18:41 AM PDT by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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Bump for ref


7 posted on 03/28/2018 5:21:27 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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Q: Anyone know if was possible for Facebook to collect info on non-members who visited Facebook sites?


8 posted on 03/28/2018 5:23:45 AM PDT by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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The real purpose of these recent revelations about the internet and our privacy is that it is a test. They’ve been gathering data for marketing and such for a decade. Now, they let us know and make some feeble apologies while continuing to accumulate the data and perfecting the algorithms.

Then, they wait and compile data on who quit and who changed their usage habits as a result of these revelations. I would bet that in the end, there will be statistically no difference in user behavior and that sends the signal that the next phase is a GO: full profile building using third-party organizations that have links to Soros organizations.

Because people simply don’t care as long as the little magic box in their hand keeps them amused constantly from the alarm clock in the morning to the last Tweet of the day at bedtime.

The purpose? It becomes a strain gauge to measure how far they can go and how far they can push. After all, the Globalist Progressives want productive and compliant serfs working their holdings. And these days, the emphasis is on compliant since automation and workplace monitoring can force productivity out of the compliant.


9 posted on 03/28/2018 5:23:55 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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Just ran the steps to get my data. I'm rarely logged into google, so I'm interested what the rat bastards have. Got this ominous message at the end of the process...

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10 posted on 03/28/2018 5:27:21 AM PDT by Flick Lives
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My children all have gmail because their schools facilitated them having accounts. I worked at a school which uses Outlook for email for faculty and staff but also uses OneDrive for documents. My children have a ton of data already collected on them from school computer usage. They come home and log in to their accounts and proceed to produce more personal data. How many parents knowingly consent to this? Also, schools are using data collection regularly starting in preschool. Motives for educators are innocent enough. However, the companies collecting the data are probably not as secure as they should be.

Many many years ago, I posted regularly on lucianne’s website. She actively promoted google when google was starting out. That is when I first used google. I was eventually kicked off that site for taking a W speech and comparing his words to Bubba’s words. Lol


13 posted on 03/28/2018 5:37:13 AM PDT by petitfour (APPEAL TO HEAVEN)
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I smell a big, yummy class action lawsuit. Go plaintiff lawyers!


16 posted on 03/28/2018 5:42:48 AM PDT by Romulus
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19 posted on 03/28/2018 5:45:36 AM PDT by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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Heh, and I thought that no company could outsleeze Microsoft.
All they did was give us software with more holes than swiss cheese, announce that they would produce competing software with companies doing good stuff, thereby driving down the price of that company, and then purchase the company. Only to ruin what stuff that company had produced.

And now Google.
When you absolutely, positively want every byte of information about you out there for sale.
To anyone.


21 posted on 03/28/2018 5:54:33 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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I think the time is right for Congress to BAN Facebook (and any other Internet web site) from collecting ANY data on users. This would include the use of “cookies.”
23 posted on 03/28/2018 5:58:51 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob ("Other People's Money" = The life blood of Liberalism)
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No invasion of privacy applies to the Google robber barons. They have lawyers and judges in their pockets. Nothing will ever be done.


26 posted on 03/28/2018 6:02:16 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Google Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC ...)
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How else were they supposed to develop Artificial Intelligence? They had to collect lots of data first.


32 posted on 03/28/2018 6:08:55 AM PDT by petitfour (APPEAL TO HEAVEN)
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It began with cookies and a NYTimes columnist (retired long time now) wrote an oped many years ago, when the Internet and with it the use of cookies was just beginning, and he argued that we had to collectively demand that all such stuff be predicated on the default set to opt-out and EVERY use of our information had to be made possible ONLY on a choice of opt-in and that choice required NOT merely for each data-type but for each and every direct and indirect use of it. He was right.

Big Brother will not be a government so much as a set of giant corporations in a not-to-distant future state-capitalist symbiosis, like China.


35 posted on 03/28/2018 6:26:48 AM PDT by Wuli
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It is possible to mess with these websites in non confrontational way -

I made comment last week about Facebook. I just ran my settings to see what they have gathered- not much in my opinion.

I have been using a VPN for last 9 mos. Prior to that rarely posted anything on Facebook - used to keep up with family activities

I mostly use to play games, relaxes me after shift at work.
My history shows me as quite the traveller- VPN I use allows me to change city I am logged into- I change every couple of days.

In addition I search for odd things on Facebook, example horology, baskets, clocks made from baskets.

You get the idea - a comment was made to many years ago- get in as many db as possible under different IDS as possible- when the comment was made I was neophyte in internet usage- as time passed I understood the beauty of the comment.

I have wide ranging interests- I search for odd things as I think of them, example submersible ultrasonic cleaners, solar panels, solar panels with storage devices.
submersible ultrasonic cleaners used with solar panels and storage devices.

When you are n many db harder to find or categorize what you are doing.

On facebook I have had offers of clocks for sale in Ireland and GB. I am in the US.

I have started extending this to youtube- wide ranging tastes in music and what I am interested to see. In music I have noticed that youtube has built mixes for me. So i have started to mess with the algorithm - listen to REO, Tut Taylor, Strauss, Beethoven, Molly Hatchet.

I get some very strange mix suggestions, so then I will listen to Judith Dunham, the Kempters, Charlie Daniels.

Followup with Earl Scruggs then try Dobro music , Greek music, then watch some repairing resonator guitars.

Make it hard for the jackboots to pigeon hole me.


41 posted on 03/28/2018 6:41:51 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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Google is evil, is there a lawyer out there brave enough to run a class action suit for invasion of privacy? I’d like to signup.


46 posted on 03/28/2018 7:39:57 AM PDT by Retvet (Retvet)
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Why do you think FB and Zuckerberg are so rich? Just because they provide a free service for folks to keep up with family and friends (how nice!) and a few ads. Heck no.


47 posted on 03/28/2018 7:40:57 AM PDT by all the best
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Ping to check out later


49 posted on 03/28/2018 9:39:18 AM PDT by Kommodor (Terrorist, Journalist or Democrat? I can't tell the difference.)
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