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SCOTUS Rules on Police Shooting...and Sotomayor's Scathing Dissent
Townhall.com ^ | April 3, 2018 | Cortney O'Brien

Posted on 04/03/2018 5:47:43 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 04/03/2018 5:47:44 AM PDT by Kaslin
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The top bar of the chain-link fence blocked Kisela’s line of fire, so he dropped to the ground and shot Hughes four times through the fence.

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A fence separated them but he was scared and had to shoot her anyway????


2 posted on 04/03/2018 5:51:18 AM PDT by shelterguy (Bigdeal)
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Like the stupid Mexican klan member should even have a voice. Her opinion is La Raza’s opinion, not an American opinion.


3 posted on 04/03/2018 5:52:17 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Google Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC ...)
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Hughes suffered “non life threatening injuries” from the shots. So it appears that the cop shooter did not aim for the head or heart. Maybe a knee-cap would suffice. You don’t want to f*ck around when facing a knife.


4 posted on 04/03/2018 5:56:30 AM PDT by VietVet876
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To: Kaslin

Strange as it is to find myself agreeing with Sotomayor, in this case I do. We are giving police free rein to shoot first. That should be the last possible course of action.


5 posted on 04/03/2018 5:58:23 AM PDT by Twotone
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You need to reread the story. You’re missing a key part of what happened. Just saying.


6 posted on 04/03/2018 5:58:24 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (HTTP 500 - Internal Server Error)
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To: Kaslin

I think Hell may have just frozen over. I find myself in agreement with Justice Sotomayor.


7 posted on 04/03/2018 5:58:50 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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Sotomyer is correct IMO. Had that been my sister or mother, I’d have been upset.

There’s a fence separating the officer and Hughes. Her roommate says, “take it easy”.


8 posted on 04/03/2018 5:58:55 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Let's get Newt in there in some capcity.)
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To: VietVet876

She was behind a fence. If he was scared he could have sat in his car and locked the door .


9 posted on 04/03/2018 5:59:27 AM PDT by shelterguy (Bigdeal)
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“they believed at the time that Hughes was a threat to Chadwick” The roommate was on the same side of the fence as Hughes.


10 posted on 04/03/2018 6:00:33 AM PDT by JayGalt (Let Trump Be Trump)
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A fence separated them but he was scared and had to shoot her anyway????

Kisela, Garcia and Kunz defended Kisela's decision to shoot, noting they believed at the time that Hughes was a threat to Chadwick.

You must have missed that part. The roommate must have been close by.

Why you would want to be close to someone hacking away at a tree with a knife I don’t know. Some people just can’t walk away from an argument.

11 posted on 04/03/2018 6:02:11 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.L)
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Chadwick was threatened and not beyond the fence


12 posted on 04/03/2018 6:02:50 AM PDT by Thibodeaux (Long Live the Republic!)
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If Hughes had spun around and stabbed Chadwick while the officers were trying to talk her down, would we be slamming them for not taking action?

I think we would. And if Chadwick had got stabbed, she would be suing the police for not protecting her.

If somebody has a weapon and they are waving it around when the police show up, they are probably taking their lives in their own hands. But there will be people here who think the police can do no good and are always wrong.

The terrible thing for me is that I agree with Sotomayors dissent. The police need to use better judgement in these matters. But so do the people waving a weapon around.


13 posted on 04/03/2018 6:03:53 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: JayGalt

“they believed at the time that Hughes was a threat to Chadwick” The roommate was on the same side of the fence as Hughes.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Does she have legs? She can’t run away?


14 posted on 04/03/2018 6:05:44 AM PDT by shelterguy (Bigdeal)
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A fence separated them but he was scared and had to shoot her anyway????

Although a fence separated the woman with the knife from the officers, there was another woman standing 6 feet away from the woman with the knife. The officers might have been protected by the fence, but the other woman was in danger.

15 posted on 04/03/2018 6:05:44 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big governent is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: shelterguy

You were there? You know the topography of the site?
Me neither.


16 posted on 04/03/2018 6:06:56 AM PDT by JayGalt (Let Trump Be Trump)
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To: shelterguy

“A fence separated them but he was scared and had to shoot her anyway?”

No, Chadwick was the room mate in danger. The cop shot to protect the room mate. Sounds reasonable to me.


17 posted on 04/03/2018 6:08:47 AM PDT by Clean_Sweep
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This shooting seems utterly egregious. The shootee was not in a position to hurt anyone right then with that knife. The officer was female which seems to generally be a problem. I have had some interactions
(traffic) with teams of police where one was females. The female always seems to be tense and and always seems as if trying to prove she is as badass as any man. Women also tend to be smaller and quicker to resort to deadly force. Once while the male was issuing a warning instead of a citation to the driver, the female had her hand on her gun the whole time. When Jared questioned the male politely about the citation she moved her hand as if to grip the gun. Of course this was Tampa and we had a North Florida plate which is as bad as an out-of-state plate in Kansas. There were two other times with equivalent worrisome females present.


18 posted on 04/03/2018 6:11:02 AM PDT by arthurus (f)
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I think the problem is more fundamental than that.

The U.S. Constitution was written at a time when there was no such thing as a "police officer" as we now have them, and it would have been inconceivable for people to call in "the law" to deal with a petty dispute like this between two adults.

19 posted on 04/03/2018 6:11:14 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's.")
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“Her opinion is La Raza’s opinion, not an American opinion.”

You think it’s an american opinion to shoot someone who is not breaking the law and is not threatening someone? If the roommate felt threatened she could have just left the scene.


20 posted on 04/03/2018 6:11:40 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (The first step in ending the war on white people is to recognize it exists.)
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