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SCOTUS Rules on Police Shooting...and Sotomayor's Scathing Dissent
Townhall.com ^ | April 3, 2018 | Cortney O'Brien

Posted on 04/03/2018 5:47:43 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Alberta's Child

Exactly. The First Principles are ALL IGNORED-—as we argue pathetic little details of a System which is TOTALLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL and denies the fundamental Natural Rights of the people. It is the Natural Duty to protect oneself and Natural family==never the police’s Natural Right.

It is why I quit listening to Rush, Hannity, etc. a decade ago....They never address the First Principles. It is all as Ray Bradbury said—just a bunch of distraction and addictions (MSM), the bread and circuses to keep us from the Truth (God) (Hegelian Dialectic/Overton Window) so our Constitution can be obliterated (as it now has been). Our Foundeing Documents were thrown out in 1913 by a bribed, Rothschild-controlled Pres. Wilson and we now are totally spied on with our perceptions all targeted and controlled.

Until we get rid of the EVIL, unconstitutional “System” and agencies (CFR/IRS/NSA, etc) starting with the Federal Reserve and Marxist Income Tax Act—we will never be free again. WE are controlled and herded and programmed now by a few godless psychopaths—esp. our children who are Mind Controlled (conditioned/brainwashed) if they are in public schools and watch TV/computers. They have artificial emotions fed into them constantly as free association and free play are obliterated as is the Natural Family-—the ONLY things which create “thinking for self” and creativity and understanding of Natural Law (Rationality, science/Reality).


161 posted on 04/04/2018 9:40:50 AM PDT by savagesusie (When Law ceases to be Just, it ceases to be Law. (Thomas A./Founders/John Marshall)/Nuremberg)
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To: shelterguy
so many cops are Nazi's...and the govt gives them a pass....

its terrible that cops get attacked...

but honestly, they seem to just shoot for absolutely no reason...

being drunk, on drugs, mentally incompetent, suicidal,etc should not be reason to shoot someone...

162 posted on 04/04/2018 9:52:17 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Clean_Sweep
who called the cops?...was it the roommate?...if so, she wanted help for her roommate/friend not intending for her to be SHOT FOUR TIMES...besides, roommate could have just moved away...

no dice on this one...cop clearly wrong and an idiotic and criminal imo ..

163 posted on 04/04/2018 9:58:25 AM PDT by cherry
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To: arthurus
"Women also tend to be smaller and quicker to resort to deadly force."

smaller maybe, but quicker to resort to deadly force?....prove it..IIRC, it seems most bad shootings in the last several yrs have been made by men..

164 posted on 04/04/2018 10:00:49 AM PDT by cherry
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To: shelterguy

bet the cops had a few good drinks over those killings..the good old boys club....like shooting a buck...


165 posted on 04/04/2018 10:03:34 AM PDT by cherry
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To: shelterguy

Lethal force can be applied with a pistol or any number of other weapons or objects. Lethal force can even be applied with bare hands.

The point is that the police didn’t apply lethal force in this case.

I can’t figure out whether you are being stubborn or just too dunb to understand.


166 posted on 04/04/2018 10:18:11 AM PDT by enumerated
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To: enumerated

Deadly force, also known as lethal force, is force that is likely to cause either serious bodily injury or death to another person. In most jurisdictions, the use of deadly force is justified only under conditions of extreme necessity as a last resort, when all lesser means have failed or cannot reasonably be employed.

Firearms, bladed weapons, explosives, and vehicles are among those weapons the use of which is considered deadly force. The use of non-traditional weapons in an offensive manner, such as a baseball bat, sharp pencil, tire iron or other, may also be considered deadly force.[1]


167 posted on 04/04/2018 10:28:46 AM PDT by shelterguy (Bigdeal)
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To: shelterguy

Correct.

And in this case, deadly force was not used. The officer was obviously skilled enough to target his shots so as to avoid causing death or serious injury.

The Supreme Court agrees with me.


168 posted on 04/04/2018 10:54:42 AM PDT by enumerated
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To: qaz123
Believe it or not, a cop isn’t allowed to just go bossing people around, on their own property not doing anything.

I do 'believe' that cops ARE allowed to 'boss people around'.

As for the 'not doing anything'; well; something was being done in this instance; wasn't it.


Now then; back to my question:

"What would YOU do" if someone had not done what you'd told them to do; even with sugar?

169 posted on 04/04/2018 10:56:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: cherry
but honestly, they seem to just shoot for absolutely no reason...

And this is EXACTLY the response the media WANTS you to have!

170 posted on 04/04/2018 10:58:11 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: enumerated

Shoot someone in the ass four times and let me know if you get out of being charged with using deadly force. According to you it is no big deal since she lived through the attempted execution.


171 posted on 04/04/2018 10:58:25 AM PDT by shelterguy (Bigdeal)
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To: enumerated; All

Let's go over here and rant; too!


http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3644816/posts

172 posted on 04/04/2018 11:20:59 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: shelterguy
In Kisela v. Hughes, the justices overturned – without briefing or oral argument –
the ruling of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit in favor of Amy Hughes,
whom police corporal Andrew Kisela shot and wounded in 2010.

173 posted on 04/04/2018 11:31:32 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: shelterguy
Shoot someone in the ass four times...


At least get your facts straight:

Bullets hit her in the hip, leg, arm and groin area, said Hughes’ attorney, Vince Rabago.

174 posted on 04/04/2018 11:34:50 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Oh, that’s way different then.


175 posted on 04/04/2018 11:35:54 AM PDT by shelterguy (Bigdeal)
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To: Elsie

You do believe that cops can boss you around?

Where in the any Constitution, state or federal, does it say they can do that?

So, you’re just a sheep that will lay down at the slightest suggestion, request or order from a cop? You do not care about your rights? You do know that once a cop orders you to do something, it starts dealing with the 4th Amendment against unreasonable search and seizure? You do know that you the police cannot do that unless they have probably cause?

I really hate to say it, but if you’re willing to give up your rights to any cop, when you’re not doing anything wrong, you’re exactly the guy of person the Democrat’s are glad to have around.

And as I stated. if they’ve done nothing wrong, as a police officer, I don’t have the authority to tell them what to do.

Youtube and Google can be your friend, believe it or not. You might want to do some research on the powers of police.


176 posted on 04/04/2018 10:46:42 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: qaz123
So, you’re just a sheep that will lay down at the slightest suggestion, request or order from a cop?

Nope.

I happen to be a realist that looks at life the way it IS.

I might have all the law and lights and rights-of-way and everything else on my side when I go thru the intersection; but if I ignore the fact that a speeding cement truck is blasting thru on RED...

177 posted on 04/05/2018 4:10:27 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: qaz123
And as I stated. if they’ve done nothing wrong, as a police officer, I don’t have the authority to tell them what to do.

Oh; you've STILL not answered just what YOU have done when folks have disobeyed YOUR orders.

Surely they were not ALL sheep in those shitty situations you inferred up thread.

178 posted on 04/05/2018 4:12:18 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Let me try to put this another way....

When I had probable cause to do something...because a crime had been or was about to be committed and the person was involved in a someway...something that didn’t exist in this case...I did what was necessary.

When I was in the presence of people THAT...WERE...NOT...BREAKING....THE...LAW...I...DID...NOT...ORDER...THEM...TO...DO...ANYTHING...AS...I....WAS... LEGALLY...NOR....HAD...ANY....JUSTIFICATION...OR...AUTHORITY....TO....GIVE...THEM...ANY....ORDER...OR...REQUEST

AGAIN....IF....THEY....DIDN’T...DO....ANYTHING....CRIMINAL...I...WOULD...HAVE...NO...REASON...TO...APPROACH...THEM...OR...SPEAK...TO....THEM.

I hope that by typing like that, it is a way for me to say it slower, so you can understand that they police can’t just walk up to you or anyone else and just start telling you to do something.

I should have been done, earlier. But, I’m done.


179 posted on 04/05/2018 4:51:41 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: qaz123
I did what was necessary.

HMMMmmm...

And this necessariness manifested itself; how?

180 posted on 04/05/2018 5:27:48 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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