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Feel The Burn [Elon Musk disaster]
Eric Peters Autos | April3, 2018 | Eric Peters

Posted on 04/04/2018 6:46:04 AM PDT by all the best

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To: ctdonath2
"Read your own verbiage and explain why it applies to Tesla."

You better re-read it. I explain exactly how it pertains to Tesla. You obviously haven't driven many EVs. They're not at all cool - when driving in a hot sun. They simply don't store sufficient energy to properly air condition the car.

And I certainly don't have E/V Derangement. I've participated in a design team that designed, developed, and produced one.

61 posted on 04/04/2018 11:29:44 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The stone age didn't end because we ran out of stones.)
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To: norwaypinesavage

Your theory centers on Tesla being sold to a major auto manufacturer.
I don’t think Musk intends that, he wants to keep it as its own independent entity.

I drove a Leaf for 2 years, around Atlanta. HVAC was not a problem. “Range anxiety” was gotten over quickly (plan accordingly).

As for EVD, you’re in a thread full of it - easy to be mistaken for having it.


62 posted on 04/04/2018 11:39:54 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The Red Queen wasn't kidding.)
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To: Joe Boucher

Answer: about $5B. All has been more than “paid back” in taxes.


63 posted on 04/04/2018 11:40:52 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The Red Queen wasn't kidding.)
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To: ctdonath2

“...seems author is scared Musk will succeed.”

Succeed at what though? I mean, I’m scared Musk will succeed at continuing to fleece the US taxpayers and line his own pockets in the process.


64 posted on 04/04/2018 12:07:43 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: ctdonath2

Sure people pay lots of money for crap.


65 posted on 04/04/2018 12:13:12 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: NCnodeLOGICBOMB
Build quality and reliability for these cars are horrendous.

They just need to do some gap analysis.

On their panels.

66 posted on 04/04/2018 12:16:03 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (In God We Trust, In Trump We MAGA)
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To: Nifster

What is this “crap” of which you speak (in this thread in particular)?


67 posted on 04/04/2018 1:00:32 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The Red Queen wasn't kidding.)
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To: Boogieman

Got some numbers for that accusation? Or just generically flinging ad-hominem attacks for no good reason?


68 posted on 04/04/2018 1:01:19 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The Red Queen wasn't kidding.)
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To: dangus

” I had to go on line and spend 15 minutes changing a headlight lamp; they’re at the front of a box you have to take apart, and can only access by opening the hood. “

Sounds about par for most modern vehicles. On my Chevy finding and then unlocking the retaining frame was comparable to solving a Rubik’s Cube.


69 posted on 04/04/2018 1:12:36 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: ctdonath2

All a guy has to do is google “Tesla meeting production goals” and the list of shortfalls is as long as Tesla’s waiting list.

I’m not gloating, I’m not attacking you guys, but the ‘there’ just isn’t there, and never has been, has it?

The fact that Musk’s supporters get angry, combatative at questions (yes, I know many doubters may exaggerate at times) just doesn’t help the case.

Would you buy Tesla stock today?


70 posted on 04/04/2018 1:16:40 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Fightin Whitey

Yes, I would buy Tesla stock.

Apple went thru a bad patch too. That would have been the best time to buy other than at startup. And I missed the IPO of Microsoft by choice, worst mistake of my life.

What gets me is all the naysaying smearage when Tesla _is_ turning out some 2000 cars per week, which is only off goal by a factor of 2.5 during a very aggressive startup phase, surprising no-one. Were they off by a factor of 10-100 I’d be concerned.


71 posted on 04/04/2018 2:05:45 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The Red Queen wasn't kidding.)
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To: dynoman
talk about burn rate... this alone can put him out of business


72 posted on 04/04/2018 4:38:14 PM PDT by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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To: ctdonath2

“Got some numbers for that accusation?”

Well, $4.9 billion, as of back in 2015. God only knows how much he’s managed to bilk us of since then.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hy-musk-subsidies-20150531-story.html


73 posted on 04/05/2018 7:53:08 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: cpdiii
He's actually pretty good with cars as well -- Tesla cars are beautiful pieces of engineering.

but that's the problem - he's an engineer, not a bean-counter and he's an unrealistic project manager. That's what has hit him

74 posted on 05/07/2018 11:39:36 PM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: RayChuang88

Not so much VW as nissan-renault. The leaf is a wonderful electric city car.


75 posted on 05/07/2018 11:42:47 PM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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