[from occupied ga]

Cops get away with just about anything. If they shoot you on a whim you’re totally screwed even if you survive the shooting. So what’s new?

[Ciaphas Cain]

The only... the ONLY... thing separating the police from the average citizen is that the officer has chosen on his or her own to make a paid profession of the duties that every citizen is supposed to assume.

Thus, it becomes that the officers should and must be held to a higher standard than regular citizens.

Had this been a "normal" citizen who shot this lady up, there would be enormous jail time handed down.

But having a bronze badge is a "get out of jail free card" for those who wear it, apparently. At least according to the Ninth Circus and most of the Supreme Court.

[Riley]

I kind of worry about this kind of thing, I have serious hearing loss and even with hearing aids I can’t make out what people are saying sometimes. Now, I have some common sense though, in this exact situation I’d think ‘oh, they’re upset about the knife’ and I’d drop it.

What worries me is having a couple of cops draw on me and they’re yelling at me buy it sounds like Charlie Brown’s teacher and I have nothing in my hands and I have no idea what they want me to do.

[Iron Munro]

Officer Andrew Kisela "fired four rounds at her through a chain link fence.

Kisela could have used his Taser instead of his gun.

Any videos of a taser working through a chain link fence?

[Steamburg]

The article is not just a touch one sided. Complying with commands by an armed person or officer results in a choice of act with deadly force or comply. It does not lend itself well to let’s call in a mediator or what do you mean “Do it now!”

[Mariner]

Qualified immunity makes police officers our rulers.

It must be abolished.

Completely.

Every officer must be subject to the very same laws as the citizenry, including civil law/tort.

[BitWielder1]

I am very weary about the "DROP YOUR WEAPON, BANG BANG BANG" policy.
Especially when used against kids with toy weapons who may have no idea the command was directed at them.
I'm a bit hard of hearing, I would hate to hear "WA WA WA WA" and turn around and get shot dead for carrying a cellphone.

[MeganC]

The unstated message here is that:

1. Every encounter with the police is a potentially lethal event.

2. The police are personally unaccountable for their criminal and negligent actions.

3. Every citizen should be (and note my choice of words here) IN FEAR FOR THEIR LIVES whenever the police aim a weapon at them or their loved ones.

[Elsie]

Thanks to the Supreme Court, a jury will not get a chance to consider that question.

Oh?

I thought to even get to the SC a trial had to go down SOMEWHERE!

[Elsie]

In Kisela v. Hughes, the justices overturned – without briefing or oral argument –

the ruling of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit in favor of Amy Hughes,

whom police corporal Andrew Kisela shot and wounded in 2010.

[zeugma]

Having read through the opinion and dissent yesterday, I have to say that in this case, the liberal whackjobs were in the right, and the rest of the court was bending over backwards to make sure the police state doesn’t have any troublesome impediments like common sense or decency get in its way. It’s an unusual occurrence.

[YogicCowboy]

Sovereign immunity.

I figured out in the 1980s that the police are not our friends (even if they want to be).

[familyop]

Tell everyone not to call police for any kind of welfare check. Obviously, the more equal upscale folks are going insane with time. Try to stay out of their way and watch the crazy show from afar.

[Fred911]

Hmmmm....there are cops at my house. I have an idea, I’ll walk out to speak with them with this knife in my hand. What could possibly go wrong?

[familyop]

"the two other officers with him nevertheless drew their guns and ordered Hughes to drop the knife...Kisela...opened fire immediately and without warning, hitting Hughes with all four bullets."

According to the author's words, Hughes was not attacking anyone, which was obvious to everyone present except for one policeman. So she was assaulted with deadly force and very seriously injured. Were the author's words true?

Whether or not someone is "ordered" "to drop the knife" is irrelevant to the legal issue of deadly assault or self-defense. Whether or not someone is trying to attack someone else is relevant.

Whether or not someone is "ordered" "to drop the knife" is relevant to survival, if such an order is issued by a likely attacker who might attack with deadly force for the thrill of it. The problem with being satisfied with that outcome as a matter of policy is that of consequences that criminals tend to ignore (re. criminology).

But were the author's words true to the situation? I don't know.