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Mexican Leaders Are Fervent That SOME Mexicans Slip Into U.S.
The Revolutionary Act ^ | 04/04/18

Posted on 04/04/2018 3:02:53 PM PDT by Liberty7732

Looking at Mexican policy and actions, President Trump was right way back during the campaign: Mexico does use the United States as a bit of a dumping ground for their least desirable citizens.

Like everything he says, this claim was immediately misrepresented and castigated in the media. Sinister motives were ascribed.

But it can be proven through the briefest of Socratic methods: Why do Mexican leaders risk angering the United States and flaring relations to ensure that some of their residents can illegally cross into America?

Is it because these are the brightest and best Mexico has to offer? Is it because these are the generally educated class? Is it because these are the middle class? Is it because these are entrepreneurs? Is it because these are wealthy Mexicans? The obvious answer to all of these questions is, No.

There’s really only one reason why Mexican government leaders fight so hard for open borders on the north, while maintaining draconian security procedures along their own southern border: They want their least desirable citizens to leave to the north, while at the same time blocking their southern neighbors least desirable citizens from slipping into Mexico. (The exception is if the people from Mexico’s southern neighbors are shepherded all the way through to the United States, such as the caravan that has been traipsing its way northward.)

Yes, the terminology sounds harsh. But “least desirable” is not to say they are bad people (criminals excepted) but to say that the Mexican government sees them as being of little to no value to the state. Worse probably, they perceive them to be a burden, a drain and a potential cauldron of trouble. Large masses of uneducated, unskilled, poverty-stricken residents is a recipe for large-scale unrest. As a country with a long history of corruption and a lack of rights for its people, it is continually generating new generations of such masses. The steam is released from these boilers through the open border to the United States.

This is the not-so-secret explanation for why Mexican policy over multiple presidents has been to push full-out for open borders — with the United States.

Recall the rhetorical lengths Mexican presidents have gone to in order to keep some of their citizens flowing out.

Former Mexican President Vicente Fox publicly referred to it as Trump’s “f**king wall” and called it an insult to Mexicans. A few years earlier, during the open-border Obama administration, speaking to Mexicans in America during a speech to Congress, Fox said, “we are working hard for your rights” — in America, not in Mexico. Because in America is where Mexican leaders clearly want them to be.

“Good collaboration between governments is a safer way to protect the United States than any stupid wall,” former Mexican President Felipe Calderón said. “We won’t pay a single cent for that stupid wall. It’s pathetic. . . . Trump is completely demagogical.” To be clear, Calderón has no interest in protecting the United States. He cares about keeping the status quo of some Mexicans being allowed to escape to the U.S.

Now a lot of these Mexicans who are apparently not really wanted in their own country can thrive in America because, to put it bluntly, America is a far better nation for a full range of people to thrive. I can hear the uproar over that statement now. But the evidence demonstrating the point is clear just from the direction of legal and illegal immigration across the Mexican-American border. Millions flood north, legally and illegally. Almost no one immigrates south.

As to Trump getting it wrong, he did not. He said it inartfully when referring to “rapists” and so on (although obviously we do get some of those.) This was another instance where Trump’s instincts were better than the isolated intelligentsia’s talking points. And it shows again when this caravan marching north through Mexico and picking up people along the way was confronted with Trump’s statement that he will reinforce the southern border with the U.S. military until the wall is built and may dump the North American Free Trade Agreement that Mexico relies on so strongly.

“Until we can have a wall and proper security, we’re going to be guarding our border with the military,” Trump said during a news conference with Baltic leaders in Washington.

That finally got the attention of Mexican leadership. The caravan has stopped. Because real border security works and is necessary for national security in the short and long term.

We should be straightforward about this. Mexico is not interested in American national security. They have an entirely different agenda. It is what is good for Mexico. This is reasonable. It’s clear what the agenda is and it’s just as clear that this agenda is not in the best interests of the United States. Supposedly, that’s what an American president should be looking out for. From 2008 to 2016 we did not have that. Today, we do.


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1 posted on 04/04/2018 3:02:53 PM PDT by Liberty7732
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To: Liberty7732

Mexican governments for generations have fed resentment of the United States for the Mexican War.
The European elites in Mexico have been pushing their poor indigenous population into the US for decades.

We have been importing people who hate US.


2 posted on 04/04/2018 3:07:32 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Liberty7732
"Is it because these are the brightest and best Mexico has to offer?"

If the illegals are "the brightest and best Mexico has to offer" they should be readily willing to take them back for "value added" during their stay in the US.
3 posted on 04/04/2018 3:08:08 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: Liberty7732

Sure! Except that they’re afraid of being nuked! ;-)

Besides, they can be as “fervent” as they like. It won’t do them any good.

Trump to sign proclamation sending National Guard to border immediately
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/04/04/trump-to-sign-proclamation-sending-national-guard-to-border-immediately.html


4 posted on 04/04/2018 3:11:33 PM PDT by familyop (Yeah, the stick's real good for beating. But shouldn't we be using the carrot, too?)
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To: Liberty7732

Mexican gringos like Vicente Fox would like to cleanse Mexico as much as possible.


5 posted on 04/04/2018 3:12:50 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: Liberty7732

Maybe a few of the best & brightest Mexicans want to live here or have second homes, but the reality is, most by far are the poorest of the poor who are so desperate they are willing to be used by gangs to cross illegally, and carry their water . . and drugs . . and guns

That most national officials have allowed this to go on for decades if not centuries, is proof positive they don’t give a FF about the rest of us

Throw in Big Ag and the Chamber of Commerce too. Screw them all. We should ship every damn one of them to Mexico for life


6 posted on 04/04/2018 3:17:19 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Hey brainwashed students . . . where's your "outrage" @FBI? @BrowardSheriff? DO SOMETHING!!)
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To: Liberty7732

Money sent “home” to Mexico for decades is now a larger source of income that oil and gas, add drugs to that total and a closed border would probably kill the corrupt government boo hoo!


7 posted on 04/04/2018 3:21:34 PM PDT by Mister Baredog (AP Headline: Global Warming found on Mars, it's Trumps fault)
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Mexico is not a national Friend the the US. Mexicans, yeah, sure ... but not Mexico.

As for if the Mexican government would do this, even along racial lines, all one needs to consider is exactly who stole the wages of those in the Bracero program (it was officials in the Mexican government) ... yes, they’d do it! From years back they’d have done it!

But all that aside, the idea of retaking their supposed lost destiny (though no one but their own elites are responsible for that given that Mexicans make good soldiers, know how to work well, they are awash in Christianity, that Mexico has abundant valuable resources and can feed its own people, indeed it exports food) has created in some a sense of self righteous and nationally arrogant entitlement. You couldn’t give away immigration papers to some of these people because obeying our law is beneath them.

And all the while their more honorable countrymen, as well as lawful immigrants from many places, have to live with encountering attitudes and suspicions that follow in their wake.


8 posted on 04/04/2018 3:23:14 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Liberty7732

The main reason Mexico pushes for open borders on their north is that the Mexicans who go north are earning money and sending it back home. It is that flow of money Trump wants to tax to build the wall, according to his earlier statements.

The second reason is the drug distribution and production network into the US needs foot soldiers and workers.

The cash flow to Mexico is huge, especially when you figure in the drug profits. Getting rid of “undesirables” is just a little icing on the cake.


9 posted on 04/04/2018 3:24:22 PM PDT by Oregon Valkyrie (Truth, Justice, and the American Way! MAGA!)
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Does the Border Patrol and National Guard have orders to shoot to kill? Very easy problem to solve.


10 posted on 04/04/2018 3:25:21 PM PDT by Kalamata (Meat hooks for Tyrants)
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To: Liberty7732

Empty our prisons into Acapulco.


11 posted on 04/04/2018 3:28:58 PM PDT by The Toll
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About 10 years ago I saw video of the Mexican president giving a speech to the Mexican congress. He said, I paraphrase slightly, “...the borders of Mexico extend to where ever there are Mexican people.....” and the Mexican congress gave him a standing ovation. Most Mexicans do not recognize our country as a sovereign country. The refer to the United States as “el otro lado” the other side.

Wake up America!


12 posted on 04/04/2018 3:33:20 PM PDT by forgotten man
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To: Liberty7732

The elites in Mexico, the pure blooded Spanish, hate the natives, the indians, the mixed blood. They are ethnically cleansing their unwanted, the colored and inferior races. That is my analysis of the leading lights of that country, not mine.


13 posted on 04/04/2018 3:36:55 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts (If Republicans are not prepared to carry on the Revolution of 1776, prepare for a communist takeover)
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To: Oregon Valkyrie
Those who can't make a living in Mexico and the those in the drug trade are the "undesirables" to Mexico so getting rid of them and getting money back from them is a twofer.
14 posted on 04/04/2018 3:37:40 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: Liberty7732
I,personally,believe that the United States government has the right to adopt an official "shoot to kill" policy for anyone caught crossing the border illegally.I don't think that we should adopt that policy on our northern border but should *absolutely* do so on the southern borer.

And if Mexico,in "retaliation",wants to do the same on their northern border I'd be fine with that...Mexico,just like the US,has the right to secure her borders.

15 posted on 04/04/2018 3:42:27 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (You Say "White Privilege"...I Say "Protestant Work Ethic")
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To: Glad2bnuts

Well, that isn’t just an analysis, it’s the hard core facts. Mexico has been “dumping” the poor unintelligent indigenous people because quite frankly, the Elite Spanish blood leadership are racists


16 posted on 04/04/2018 3:44:01 PM PDT by realcleanguy
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To: Liberty7732

[ Mexican Leaders Are Fervent That SOME Mexicans Slip Into U.S. ]

They already did. See “Vicente Fox” and “Jorge Ramos”.


17 posted on 04/04/2018 3:47:56 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: The Toll

You jest I’m sure, but imagine the black criminal population being dumped in Mexico?

What outrage and lawlessness would follow?

See Chicago, LA, and El Paso for examples.


18 posted on 04/04/2018 3:58:52 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (This country & world is living on borrowed time (Luke 17:26-27))
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To: Liberty7732

“Mexico does use the United States as a bit of a dumping ground for their least desirable citizens.”

That would be anyone who isn’t a “white” Mexican, i.e. someone with a blood line back to Spain and no diddling the “locals.” Apart from their inability to speak good English, they are about as white as they come in the “ruling class.”


19 posted on 04/04/2018 4:07:13 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Rurudyne

“Mexico is not a national Friend the the US. Mexicans, yeah, sure ... but not Mexico.”

You mean those Mexicans who give us the finger while they are fondling their crotches? Those Mexicans?


20 posted on 04/04/2018 4:10:05 PM PDT by vette6387
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