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Staring Down on Syria [Neocon war drums]
NY Times ^ | April 12, 2018 | Bret Stephens

Posted on 04/13/2018 5:34:02 AM PDT by C19fan

On Saturday I took my family to have a closer look at Syria.

This was on the Golan Heights, from a roadside promontory overlooking the abandoned Syrian town of Quneitra. The border is very green at this time of year, a serene patchwork of orchards and grassland, and it was hard to impress on our kids that hell on earth was visible in the quiet distance.

But I wanted them to see it — to know that Syria is a place, not an abstraction; that the agonies of its people are near, not far; that we should not look away. Later that day, in a suburb of Damascus, Syrian forces apparently again gassed their own people.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Syria
KEYWORDS: bretstephens; chickenhawk; golanheights; muslimworld; nevertrumpertrolls; paleolibs; quneitra; syria; trumpgwot; trumpmiddleeast
Neo-con Bret Stephens banging the war drums again.
1 posted on 04/13/2018 5:34:02 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

Teaching your kids to hate
Just another day in the middle east


2 posted on 04/13/2018 5:36:59 AM PDT by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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To: C19fan

Wonder if Brett, will rush his fair haired boy to a recruiting station when it kicks off? Probably not.


3 posted on 04/13/2018 5:39:24 AM PDT by TallahasseeConservative (Isaiah 40:31)
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To: C19fan

If Brett wishes to be the real war-dad, why isn’t he rushing to join the Israeli Defense Force?

He wants to “do something about it”, by sending a U.S. military type, as “his proxy”. No guts, no glory.

I wonder how much he will pay somebody to be “the proxy” for his son?


4 posted on 04/13/2018 5:43:33 AM PDT by Terry L Smith (.)
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To: C19fan

Syria is perplexing. On this consrvative site most people are against us getting involved, and on the liberal sites I frequent, the attitude is the same.

So, who, exactly, is the constituency our FedGov is representing when they insist on staying involved?

Or is this just a matter of strategic thinking, and making sure that Russia does not become the main mover/shaker in the region. i.e. is this really about a subtle cold war with Russia, and Syria is just the current battleground?


5 posted on 04/13/2018 5:53:02 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm using my wife's account.)
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To: C19fan

ISIS was a small threat that had to be destroyed before it metastasized into a big threat.
Syrians killing Syrians with whatever comes to hand, for whatever stupid reasons, is none of our business. They are all bad guys there. Pull out, and let the Syrians have a go at each other (with Russian help).


6 posted on 04/13/2018 5:54:50 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: robroys woman

They are good points you make and the same ones I’m wondering about.


7 posted on 04/13/2018 5:55:03 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: robroys woman

The Military Industrial Complex needs to be nourished on a regular basis and neocons are more than happy to feed the beast.


8 posted on 04/13/2018 5:56:53 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Alex Jones isnÂ’t quite the wing nut now, all things considered.)
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To: robroys woman

Hmm... think long and hard, look at the bigger picture, and you may find the answer.


10 posted on 04/13/2018 6:02:05 AM PDT by Ulmius
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That is what I was getting at in the end.


11 posted on 04/13/2018 6:03:34 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm using my wife's account.)
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“So, who, exactly, is the constituency our FedGov is representing when they insist on staying involved?”

The DEEP STATE is the only entity that thinks exchanging nukes with Russia is a good idea regarding Syria.

Sickening.


12 posted on 04/13/2018 6:03:46 AM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's...I just don't tell anyone)
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To: C19fan

We are not going to be fooled again.


13 posted on 04/13/2018 6:05:57 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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To: BobL

The entire Western media is in lockstep.


14 posted on 04/13/2018 6:15:03 AM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: silverleaf
Teaching your kids to hate...Just another day in the middle east

In the Middle East? The hatred I saw as I scanned this article was for Donald Trump.

15 posted on 04/13/2018 6:40:06 AM PDT by libertylover (If people come here legally, they're immigrants; if they come here illegally, they're invaders.)
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To: silverleaf
"Teaching your kids to hate. Just another day in the middle east."

Yup, just as the so-called palestinians do - the most hateful, non-productive, whiny people in that part of the world. They are a gutter culture. Yes, I said that, because all cultures are not equal for the good of mankind. Cool, I stated a macro and micro aggression in one phrase. Go to your safe place, you mind-washed socialist/commie Snowflakes, and you'll be okay.

Sidebar: Remember the bombings/attacks on Israeli weddings, market-places, buses, events, et al of the 90's and early 2000's? Those atrocities stopped once Israel built that big ass wall. Yet, we're told constantly by the Demsocialists, my term now for Democrats, that walls don't work. Pfft!

16 posted on 04/13/2018 6:50:26 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (I'm not Islamophobic - I'm Islamonauseous. Plus LGBTQxyz nauseous.)
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To: C19fan

Somebody tell Brett it’s now looking like Assad didn’t do the gas attack.


17 posted on 04/13/2018 7:16:36 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: C19fan

The neo-cons would like for the US to get into a full pledge war in Syria with Russia and remove Assad. Bush 43 and neocons got us into a war in Iraq and Afghanistan look at how that turned out Iran has control all the way to Syria. Afghanistan we gained nothing.Once we removed Saddam Hussein there was nothing to stop Iran. Name one time post Kora that we got in involved and things turned out to our benefit. Get those war drums up an going. Maybe we can find those weapons of mass destruction we could not find in Iraq in Syria.


18 posted on 04/13/2018 7:20:22 AM PDT by klsparrow
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For the life of me I can’t think of one reason why Assad would think that using chemical weapons would work to his advantage.

Its Soros and his international banker buddies behind this. They want war and high gas prices. None of this will work to the advantage of Assad.


19 posted on 04/13/2018 11:50:20 AM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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