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Royal Navy's $1.3bn submarine was locked in a deadly game of 'hide and seek' ... (Russian subs)
MAILONLINE ^ | 16 April 2018 | Jessica Finn and Jennifer Smith For Dailymail.com and James Tapsfield, Political Editor For Mailonli

Posted on 04/15/2018 8:50:00 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

A Royal Navy submarine was hunted by Russian warships in a 'cat and mouse' pursuit under the eastern Mediterranean shortly before the UK took part in airstrikes against the Assad regime in Syria, it has emerged.

Russian hunter-killer submarines, nicknamed 'Black Hole' because of their stealth, chased the British Astute-class submarines over several days, supported by two frigates and an anti-submarine aircraft, according to a military source.

UK Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson said today that the UK would have to take 'precautions' against Russian cyber-attacks, after Russian President Vladimir Putin warned of 'consequences' following the airstrikes by the UK, US and France in which suspected chemical weapons sites in Syria were reduced to rubble.

The Russian Kilo-class submarines tracked the British crew as the UK vessel, carrying Tomahawk missiles with a range of up to 1,000 miles, moved within firing distance of Syria, The Sunday Times reports.

No missiles were in fact fired from British submarines during the strikes, although though the British boat would have been carrying up to 20 Tomahawk cruise missiles. The US Navy was also flying patrol aircraft over the area to track Russian boats and protect its allied submarines, it is reported.

Britain's nuclear-powered Astute submarines cost around £1.2billion each and have been commissioned since 2010, while the Russian Kilo-class submarines are powered by diesel generators and can reach a top speed of 20 knots.

Nick Childs of the International Institute for Strategic Studies said submarine commanders were trained not to fire too many missiles at once as they would give away their position.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Syria; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: kilo; russia; ssk; submarine
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1 posted on 04/15/2018 8:50:00 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I wonder who was really chasing whom.

We’ve conducted maneuvers before with Russian Kilos in friendlier times.

And Poland has one too...


2 posted on 04/15/2018 9:04:30 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I wonder if they would have fired any war shots.


3 posted on 04/15/2018 9:05:41 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I guess everyone has forgotten the cold war.


4 posted on 04/15/2018 9:09:14 PM PDT by BBell (calm down and eat your sandwiches)
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To: Snickering Hound

A submerged diesel boat can’t chase a nuke


5 posted on 04/15/2018 9:17:19 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

Kilo doesn’t have AIP either.


6 posted on 04/15/2018 9:19:31 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Snickering Hound
I wonder who was really chasing whom.

Exactly. I wonder... The UK sub didn't fire any missiles into Syria, but apparently US submarine(s) did.

In a coordinated effort, one sub could get the Russian's attention by intentionally making noise and letting itself be tracked and "chased out of the operational area." However, in so doing they dragged the Kilo out too - clearing the area for the US sub.

Also, it makes the job of the UK sub all that much easier if they had to engage the Kilo. Nothing like getting them to follow you instead of having to go to all the work of tracking them. Of course, you have to be confident in your torpedo countermeasures and evasive maneuvers to employ those tactics... Big brass ones...

7 posted on 04/15/2018 9:30:25 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Doing my part to help make America great again!)
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To: Snickering Hound

Bkmk end times 2018


8 posted on 04/15/2018 10:02:32 PM PDT by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

many years ago, I read many reports that the Brits were master submariners. The US would send fledgling skippers to Scotland to learn from them. I am hoping this is still so and this confirms it.


9 posted on 04/15/2018 10:12:16 PM PDT by llevrok (DACA = Democrats Against Citizen Americans)
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Bkmk end times 2018

End times will be indicated when Victoria Secret models show up at my door with beer and pizza.

10 posted on 04/15/2018 10:21:49 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: AndyJackson
A submerged diesel boat can’t chase a nuke

Nor can a 20 knot Kilo outrun a 30 knot Astute.

11 posted on 04/15/2018 10:22:05 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Note the fear-mongering tone of “hunterkiller” used in the article and in the pic... even though the usual term is “attack sub”.


12 posted on 04/15/2018 10:25:46 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Snickering Hound

It just happened for me here, right now!!!

WOW.... VS models, beer, and pizza.... signing off, folks!

End Times....


13 posted on 04/15/2018 11:18:13 PM PDT by Enchante (FusionGPS "dirty dossier" scandal links Hillary, FBI, CIA, Dept of Justice... "Deep State" is real)
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To: Snickering Hound

Now that’s funny!


14 posted on 04/15/2018 11:21:04 PM PDT by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

“Nick Childs of the International Institute for Strategic Studies said submarine commanders were trained not to fire too many missiles at once as they would give away their position.”

Amusing drivel of ignorance this is. Fire one or all, radar of a sophisticated enemy knows exactly where it came from.


15 posted on 04/15/2018 11:51:30 PM PDT by cpdiii (cane cutter, deckhand, roughneck, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: AndyJackson

Kilos are more sneakers than hunters as they are totally silent at 5 knots.

They cannot chase subs but they can locate them stealthily


16 posted on 04/15/2018 11:56:20 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucifiedc)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
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17 posted on 04/16/2018 12:17:27 AM PDT by CaliforniaCraftBeer
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To: CaliforniaCraftBeer

Have to bump that.. it is in my top five most watched and most loved movies... with Twister, volcano, hitch and battleship. My hubby isn’t a big hitch fan, so that’s for the girl days.


18 posted on 04/16/2018 2:05:34 AM PDT by momincombatboots (No Wall, No Way 2018.)
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To: momincombatboots

I also liked Battleship i thought it was a fun movie.
I don’t get then bad rep that it gets from people.


19 posted on 04/16/2018 2:28:23 AM PDT by mowowie (uire lab;)
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To: Snickering Hound

Better be pepperoni, or there’s no deal.


20 posted on 04/16/2018 4:27:24 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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