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How the science of persuasion could change the politics of climate change
MIT Technology Review ^ | April 16, 2018 | by James Temple

Posted on 04/16/2018 6:22:34 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

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1 posted on 04/16/2018 6:22:34 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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“I understand why you’re skeptical. I probably wrote most of the talking points you’ve read."

So he basically insults whoever he is speaking to by suggesting that their skepticism is based on his illegitimate "talking points" rather than facts. That'll get him far.

2 posted on 04/16/2018 6:25:40 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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Sounds like the Alinsky playbook. No coincidence l’m sure.


3 posted on 04/16/2018 6:27:14 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If I want to be a liberal, I’ll be a liberal.

Don’t try to fool me with smooth talking points. They’ll flop.

I’ve seen no evidence to indicate climate change is real - other than the fact liberals believe in it.

Then again, liberals believe in all kinds of things I don’t.


4 posted on 04/16/2018 6:30:21 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Let’s see if I understand him correctly. He states propaganda works, and works well with beta males and those who go along with the crowd. Implicit is that it does not work with those who think for themselves. Got it.


5 posted on 04/16/2018 6:32:16 AM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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To: gibsonguy

That was my first thought as well.


6 posted on 04/16/2018 6:32:59 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Libertarian must mean something different than it did a few years ago. Pushing for a new tax, to increase the power of a centralized government. Nothing is safe from being converged.


7 posted on 04/16/2018 6:35:46 AM PDT by Chipper (You can't kill an Obamazombie by destroying the brain...they didn't have one to begin with.)
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Libertarians peddling more taxes and statism...

I thought they were against these things? Silly me.


8 posted on 04/16/2018 6:37:01 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

You tell the big lie. You tell it over & over and resistance to that lie begins to crumble
...or does it...
Do we believe the evidence of our eyes and the actual weather we experience? Do we acknowledge the disconnect between accurately predicting global weather to a tenth of a degree while unable to accurately predict a snow storm or rain in the next 2-3 days? Do we factor in the lies told, the data falsified or hidden with selection biases and fudge factors?

“Climate scientists” pushing global warming/ man made climate change should be drummed out of academia.


9 posted on 04/16/2018 6:37:53 AM PDT by JayGalt (Let Trump Be Trump)
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If arrogance isn’t a sin, it should be.


10 posted on 04/16/2018 6:38:46 AM PDT by dforest (Never let a Muslim cut your Hair.)
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To: Chipper

Classical liberalism is dead is America.

Friedrich Hayek and Milton Friedman must be turning over in their graves.


11 posted on 04/16/2018 6:39:10 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
But I changed my mind, and let me explain why I did.”


12 posted on 04/16/2018 6:39:50 AM PDT by Rinnwald
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“libertarian-leaning Washington, DC, think tank he founded in 2014. He and his colleagues there are trying to build support for the passage of an aggressive federal carbon tax, “

Libertarians supporting carbon taxes. Now, he’s redefining libertarian to include those that want more taxes and a totalitarian carbon tax. Sort like a century ago when the term liberal, which had previously meant a person who supported free markets, limited government and individual rights was transformed into a person that supports big government and government conferred “rights”.


13 posted on 04/16/2018 6:43:29 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Abolish administrative law. It's regressive, medieval and unconstitutional!)
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He’s president of the Niskanen Center, a libertarian-leaning Washington, DC, think tank he founded in 2014. He and his colleagues there are trying to build support for the passage of an aggressive federal carbon tax...

Apparently, he has forgotten what libertarians stand for, assuming he ever knew in the first place.

Actual libertarians, even the "libertarian-leaning", do not support aggressive taxation of any kind.

14 posted on 04/16/2018 6:45:22 AM PDT by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill.)
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To: grumpygresh

That was after 1932.

Before 1932, almost every one was a classical liberal.

The culture always moves left. And resistance to that is difficult, if not downright impossible to maintain.

Anything that is not liberal, will sooner than later be captured or taken over by the Left.


15 posted on 04/16/2018 6:48:15 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Science uses the scientific method.

Climate “science” does not mean use the scientific method.

Any questions?


16 posted on 04/16/2018 6:48:56 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>https://i.imgur.com/zXSEP5Z.gif)
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What passes for “liberal” today has NOTHING to do with classic liberalism... Going by the classical definition of Liberal most folks are... but what is called LIBERAL today has NOTHING to do with that.


17 posted on 04/16/2018 6:50:28 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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Notably, the Niskanen Center isn’t pushing the environmental regulations that conservatives despise. They’re advocating a revenue-neutral carbon tax...

"revenue-neutral tax"

First it was "court-ordered, science-based" in an earlier article, now it's "revenue-neutral tax".

I haven't heard an official announcement, but I'm beginning to suspect today is National Oxymoron Day.

18 posted on 04/16/2018 6:51:44 AM PDT by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill.)
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Its changed. Today the Left wants to instruct you, regulate you and tax you.

Freedom has nothing to do with it. The elite can better plan and decide what’s best for you than you do.

The impulse to snuff out freedom is the longest-lasting impulse in human history and isn’t going to disappear any time soon.

And freedom is too much for some people to deal with...


19 posted on 04/16/2018 6:55:48 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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So he’s the typical salesman selling ice to eskimos. Great, let’s build our economy and set our energy policies based on phony climate science. Target the gullible and greedy Eskimos, I mean Republicans.


20 posted on 04/16/2018 6:55:51 AM PDT by robel
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