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Supreme Court hears case on online sales tax
CBS "News" ^ | April 16, 2018

Posted on 04/16/2018 6:52:39 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Sales Tax: $0.

Online shoppers have gotten used to seeing that line on checkout screens before they click "purchase." But a case before the Supreme Court could change that.

At issue is a rule stemming from two, decades-old Supreme Court cases: If a business is shipping to a state where it doesn't have an office, warehouse or other physical presence, it doesn't have to collect the state's sales tax.

That means large retailers such as Apple, Macy's, Target and Walmart, which have brick-and-mortar stores nationwide, generally collect sales tax from customers who buy from them online. But other online sellers, from 1-800 Contacts to home goods site Wayfair, can often sidestep charging the tax.

The case now before the Supreme Court involves South Dakota, which has no income tax and relies heavily on sales tax for revenue. South Dakota's governor has said the state loses out on an estimated $50 million a year in sales tax that doesn't get collected by out-of-state sellers.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: governmentgreed; internettax; nexus; online; quill; quill1992; quillvsnd; rubegoldberg; salestax; scotus; states; tariff; tariffs; taxes
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To: Beagle8U

Long ago I asked my dad why was betting on numbers and horse races not lawful except at race tracks and casinos. My dad said as soon as the state finds a way to tax off track betting it will be legal. Years later along came off track betting and lotteries all paying a stipend into the dates. Of course the onus of people going broke gambling were gone like by magic.


61 posted on 04/16/2018 8:11:24 AM PDT by Mouton (The MSM is a clear and present danger to the republic.)
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To: fruser1

“So, in that case, should the Texan be paying taxes to NYC for that week because he was earning money while present there?”

I think that’s exactly what happens with professional athletes. They end up paying income tax to each state in which they play that have income taxes, based on a percentage of their salary. So if they live in Florida which has no income tax, the owe taxes for the days spent playing in Illinois or California. It’s crazy.


62 posted on 04/16/2018 8:16:14 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie

We are getting the inet sales tax count on it. This was already settled but SC took it up again and that can only mean we are getting it this time.


63 posted on 04/16/2018 8:21:11 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: shelterguy

Are you sure you’re on the right site?

Democrat Underground is looking for people who want more taxation.


64 posted on 04/16/2018 8:22:19 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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To: shelterguy
Good. Even the playing field. Tax everyone equally.

You really want to level the playing field? Then how about this. Every brick-and-mortar store has to ship their goods. They have to buy the shipping supplies, hire employees to box and ship, take time away from selling their goods to ship, set up accounts with UPS and FedEx, etc. etc. Oh, and then lets require brick-and-mortar stores to have a large online presence. Force them to hire web designers and web security people. And on and on.

What people really mean when they say they want to level the sales-tax field is that they want the consumer to be screwed equally -- at both brick-and-mortar stores and online.


65 posted on 04/16/2018 8:22:29 AM PDT by Cinnamontea
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

HOW ABOUT STOP THINKING OF NEW WAYS TO TAX PEOPLE


66 posted on 04/16/2018 8:23:22 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

South Dakota is a haven for credit card usury.

If South Dakota wins, then banks claiming to only do business in South Dakota charging usurious rates to residents of other states will come within the scope of the usury law of other states.


67 posted on 04/16/2018 8:29:17 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
My inlaws lived in Las Vegas. The county just north of Clark County (LV), is Nye County. My FIL had a business card from the Nye County Tax Collector which featured a Hoover Vacuum Cleaner logo on it! Perfect!
68 posted on 04/16/2018 8:30:42 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Actually, that’s consistent with other work.

If you’re an independent contractor that does work in multiple jurisdictions, you pay based on what you make in that jurisdiction. Only diff w/players is they are paid by the league, hence the percentage.

Border states typically have arrangements whereby if you are paying income tax on what you earn in the home state, you get a pass of the income tax in the state where work performed.

However, business income will get apportioned among the jurisdictions base on where the work is performed. So if you’re a carpenter in Virginia that works in DC, MD, and VA, you’d only pay income tax based on where you live, but the owner of the company pays tax on their profit in each jurisdiction.

Bottom line, it’s already complicated enough. Taxes and regs are already keeping businesses down, adding this sales tax mess to the already complicated mix would be a freaking disaster.


69 posted on 04/16/2018 8:32:06 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: Seven_0

With all the different taxing entities & different rates,it seems ludicrous that a retailer in any state should be trying to collect tax for another state. Most of that tax money gets pissed away by politicians anyway. The heck with them;let them suffer the same way the tax payer has to anyway & don’t complicate things for an online seller,especially if they are selling products you can’t procure locally anyway.


70 posted on 04/16/2018 8:34:40 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: shelterguy

What business does your city have with competing with private industry to take care of trash?

That’s a job too important to be left to government.


71 posted on 04/16/2018 8:37:46 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: shelterguy

So if you travel to Europe and buy a watch you send your state a sales tax?


72 posted on 04/16/2018 8:37:49 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: Agamemnon

Did you happen to notice that businesses don’t pay taxes - in the end it’s the customers that do - by paying higher prices?
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I’ve been in business for 40 years. I have heard the ridiculous lie that no business pays taxes because they just pass it on to the consumer a million times.

If you so called “conservatives” want to support Amazon/Bezos then you go for it.


73 posted on 04/16/2018 8:39:11 AM PDT by shelterguy (Bigdeal)
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To: TexasGator

So if you travel to Europe and buy a watch you send your state a sales tax?
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Is Europe in one of the 57 states?


74 posted on 04/16/2018 8:40:26 AM PDT by shelterguy (Bigdeal)
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To: oldtech

Taxing imports is the government’s way to get around the Constitution’s restriction on taxing exports. We should never allow the government a new stream of revenue. The system is a mess but if we remove the restriction this whole issue goes away. The importing state would get nothing because the exporting state would keep all of it.


75 posted on 04/16/2018 8:52:33 AM PDT by Seven_0 (You cannot fool all of the people, ever!)
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To: Beagle8U

“I’m so sick of liberals and their freaking taxes!!”

If they were on fire I wouldn’t leak on them to put it out.m


76 posted on 04/16/2018 8:58:37 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneoCalifornia dreamin' (California dreamin') On such a winter's day)
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To: shelterguy

Wrong answer. Obstruct the collection of taxes at every opportunity, Starve the beast.


77 posted on 04/16/2018 9:08:27 AM PDT by chesley (What is life but a long dialog with imbeciles? - Pierre Ryckmans)
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To: frogjerk

Let’s face it - giving up taxes in one area will result in higher taxes in another area and they will be borne by many who don’t make purchases - why not charge purchasers the going rate up front?


78 posted on 04/16/2018 9:09:15 AM PDT by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrites who pose as conservatives...mostly ;-})
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To: 4yearlurker

Shitcago is 10.25% fun seekers! The “corruption tax” for shitcago is incalculable but for the state overall about $1,300 per person.


79 posted on 04/16/2018 9:10:04 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneoCalifornia dreamin' (California dreamin') On such a winter's day)
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To: chesley

Let me know how that works out after you have driven every local retailer out of business and you “:conservatives” can’t figure out why your town is dying and your property taxes have skyrocketed to offset the loss of revenue from the local retailers.

ALL HAIL AMAZON/BEZOS..


80 posted on 04/16/2018 9:14:20 AM PDT by shelterguy (Bigdeal)
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