[jdsteel]

”I snap my fingers and my blue-eyed American slaves fight and die for me"

I can say that Hillary’s loss is thanks to me. Doesn’t make it so.

For all of Bush II’s faults, he tried to give the ME a chance for self rule with a democratically elected government. It didn’t work out so well. So now we know that there are 3 choices. 1) Death, fighting and radical Islam 2) A dictatorship with a strongman to keep things in check 3) Scorched earth warfare.

[Cronos]

You can say that, but however the USA was suckered by the Sauds and Kuwaitis to fight and die for them.

Gulf war 1 was a mistake.

Bush II's path was more or less set due to Gulf War 1

During GW 1 the USA, Uk etc. sent troops that were on Saudi soil -- and this angered and angersjihadis who say no infidel troops should set foot on the "holy soil" of Saudia.