“Do you equate social security payments for retirees ( not disability) to welfare payments? “
Yes I do, and there is no difference.
How about the fact that SS is taken from our checks our whole working lives? I’m decades away from retiring, and would prefer they stop taking money from me if they’re just going to screw me down the road, but if you look at your SS withholdings from your paycheck you’d understand why people should get it back later.