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U.S. judge questions special counsel's powers in Manafort case
www.reuters.com ^ | 05/04/2018 | Sarah N. Lynch

Posted on 05/04/2018 9:00:17 AM PDT by Red Badger

ALEXANDRIA, Va. (Reuters) - A federal judge on Friday sharply criticized Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s criminal case in Virginia against President Trump’s former campaign manager, Paul Manafort, and openly questioned whether Mueller exceeded his prosecutorial powers by bringing it.

“I don’t see what relationship this indictment has with anything the special counsel is authorized to investigate,” U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis in the Eastern District of Virginia said.

At tense hearing at the federal courthouse in Alexandria, Virginia, the judge said Mueller should not have “unfettered power” in his Russia probe and that the charges against Manafort did not arise from the investigation into Moscow’s alleged meddling in the 2016 U.S. election.

Manafort is facing charges in both Virginia and Washington. The Virginia case charges him with offenses including tax and bank fraud. The other case accuses him of conspiring to launder money and failing to register as a foreign agent when he lobbied for the pro-Russia Ukrainian government.

None of the charges relate, however, to Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign or possible collusion with Russia. Trump has denied any collusion.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: District of Columbia; US: Virginia
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To: Gator113

Since the judge says it has nothing to do with the Russia case then Sessions’s recusal shouldn’t apply


101 posted on 05/04/2018 10:58:43 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Louis Foxwell

“Failure to provide will require the judge to dismiss the case.”

BAMMM!

Thank you sir.


102 posted on 05/04/2018 10:59:26 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil
“Failure to provide will require the judge to dismiss the case.”

The judge said to ether provide, or give justification for not providing. There is still an out for mueller, if he can provide justification. But that would leave a valid appeal on the table. No, I'm not a lawyer. But I did get a good nights sleep.
103 posted on 05/04/2018 11:02:37 AM PDT by JoSixChip (He is Batman!)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Most of the things he’s charged with are things that are commonly not prosecuted at all, but when you’re a prosecutor with an axe to grind, you naturally don’t care.


104 posted on 05/04/2018 11:04:23 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

Especially when you and your entire team want to undo an election.


105 posted on 05/04/2018 11:08:26 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Mozart tells you what it's like to be human. Bach tells you what it's like to be the universe)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Looks that way - wonder how this Judge snuck through the cracks....we need more like him.


106 posted on 05/04/2018 11:10:04 AM PDT by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrites who pose as conservatives...mostly ;-})
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To: Red Badger

The defense has a right to the document because it goes directly to the issue of subject matter and personal jurisdiction. The prosecution has the choice to either turn it over or dismiss the charges.

National security is no excuse for a violation of a defendant’s constitutional rights.

There is case law supporting this position.


107 posted on 05/04/2018 11:15:57 AM PDT by WASCWatch (The defense is entitled to the document because it goes directly)
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To: ichabod1

Case will be dismissed within two months.

Mueller has been trying to intimidate a witness. That’s a felony. Same thing with Cohen. Both of them should file a criminal against him; and file civil lawsuits.


108 posted on 05/04/2018 11:19:15 AM PDT by WASCWatch (The defense is entitled to the document because it goes directly)
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To: Red Badger

This is like Kanye West leaving the plantation!


109 posted on 05/04/2018 11:24:15 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (...the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light...)
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To: Red Badger

He could do more than that. He could bring it to trial and then find Manafort not guilty. He can make evidentiary rulings that hamstring one side or the other. He can throw out some charges and keep others. He can order disclosures. If he wants to torture Mueller, he has plenty of ways to do it.


110 posted on 05/04/2018 11:48:08 AM PDT by Stingray51
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To: Lurkinanloomin

So Michael Cohen’s case goes to SDNY, bt Manafort stays with Mueller. Seems like the judge knows what’s up.


111 posted on 05/04/2018 11:48:13 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("You can avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.")
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To: Stingray51

That would just drag it out over the summer and into the fall...........................


112 posted on 05/04/2018 11:49:47 AM PDT by Red Badger (Remember all the great work Obama did for the black community?.............. Me neither.)
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To: Paladin2

Why hasn’t this litigation been transferred to a local US Attorney?


That’s the judge’s point. Michael Cohen was referred to the SDNY bu yet Manafort’s case which has nothing to do with Russian collusion during the 2016 campaign remains within Mueller’s grasp. Smells to high heaven...


113 posted on 05/04/2018 11:49:50 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("You can avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.")
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To: Flick Lives

Good thing I wasn’t 100% sure. That means I am still never wrong. :>)

Either way, I like this judge. His comments make a lot of sense. Muller and his team don’t have the powers to investigate the history of everyone that has ever been associated with Trump.


114 posted on 05/04/2018 11:56:57 AM PDT by boycott
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To: Red Badger

As I recall, the original judge recused himself after accepting the Mueller indictments against Mr. Manafort.

Good to see an honest judge is now involved in this Witch Hunt.


115 posted on 05/04/2018 12:02:21 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
As I recall, the original judge recused himself after accepting the Mueller indictments against Mr. Manafort.

Are you sure you are not thinking about the Flynn case, where the judge that accepted his guilty plea recused himself before sentencing. Which incidentally also has the new judge asking questions. mueller does not seem very good at this coup stuff.
116 posted on 05/04/2018 12:08:11 PM PDT by JoSixChip (He is Batman!)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

But Manafort was a plant by the deep state, which might put the judge in a category other than sane.


117 posted on 05/04/2018 12:22:02 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: Red Badger

Media Headlines Online:

NBC: Federal judge in Manafort case skeptical of the scope of the Mueller investigation

CBS: Federal judge asks skeptical questions on Mueller’s authority to bring charges against Paul Manafort

ABC: Judge to prosecutors in Manafort case: ‘We don’t want anyone with unfettered power’

CNN: Judge in Manafort case says Mueller’s aim is to hurt Trump

MSNBC: Manafort judge says special counsel should not have ‘unfettered power’

FOX News: Federal judge accuses Mueller’s team of ‘lying,’ trying to target Trump: ‘C’mon man!’


118 posted on 05/04/2018 12:28:28 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

The internet libtards are claiming..

“if the police are investigating a drug charge and they find a dead body in your house...the judge is saying you can’t be charged with murder”

HE IS NOT saying that...freaking idiots


119 posted on 05/04/2018 12:41:33 PM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: JoSixChip

Yes, I think you’re right. It was the Flynn case where the judge recused.

Thanks.


120 posted on 05/04/2018 1:27:24 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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