Posted on 05/05/2018 12:13:25 PM PDT by BBell
An L.A. triple-murder suspect was tried in China, and his case could open the door for similar prosecutions
Walt Teague had given up hope of making an arrest in the Koreatown triple murder.
The suspect, Tai Zhi Cui, had fled Los Angeles for his native China, which has no extradition treaty with the United States.
If Chinese police would confirm that Cui was indeed in China, Teague could at least close the almost decade-old case. In a cavernous room off Tiananmen Square, he met with nearly two dozen Chinese police officials.
The highest-ranking officer then made an unexpected offer to Teague, a Los Angeles Police Department lieutenant: "We're very interested in trying him in our courts."
Late last year, Cui was found guilty by a panel of three Chinese judges. There has been no word from China on his punishment.
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Teague and other American authorities said they would have preferred to prosecute Cui in the U.S. but believed that working with the Chinese was better than letting him go free. They believe he was treated fairly, they said.
The Chinese legal system, however, has a reputation for coerced confessions, speedy executions and politically motivated arrests. Many trials are not public, and court files are generally not available for public review. In the U.S., Cui's trial would have likely lasted weeks. In China, it took 90 minutes.
Chinese prosecutors appear to have made significant use of evidence the LAPD handed over. The cooperation was approved by L.A. County prosecutors, who weighed concerns about China's judicial system against the violent nature of Cui's crimes. It is unclear what role federal officials played in the decision.
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The Chinese cooperating better than the Mexicans. Who would have thought.
I have a feeling that the Chinese government doesn’t like the idea of violent felons in their society. At least, not free-Lance ones.
No, the Chinese don't like "free-lance" criminals with no party ties.
ROTFLMAO!!! Looks like Chui jumped from the frying pan into the fire. If he’d stayed in LA the worst he’d have gotten would have been a fake ‘death” sentence that left him with a perpetual vacation on death row until his natural death. Now he gets living death in a Chinese prison possibly followed by a real death sentence that will be almost a release.
Cui was found guilty by a panel of three Chinese judges. There has been no word from China on his punishment.
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Anyone in the market for a new kidney?
“a 90 minute trial is a good sign”
Even after slowing way down a few years ago, China is still number one in the world for executions - and second only to Iran on a per capita basis. Political prisoners can be executed secretly, and excluded from their statistics, so the Chinese numbers are basically for murderers and drug dealers.
No lengthy delays from the appeal process (even though there is now a review) - sentence is carried out pretty swiftly.
For once, a fairly decent article from the Los Angeles Times.
It seems the evidence was so damning that the defendant had little chance of evasion.
Two things about the conviction stats in China (99% conviction rate), is that they probably don’t take cases to court unless they have solid proof (or strong political will on the issue).
There is probably very little chance of jury confusion, with defense attorneys lofting sheer lunacy to get a defendant off.
It is also very likely that any sentence will be carried out, something that has long since stopped happening in the United States.
California has close to 750 people on death row, and I doubt any of them will die by execution. Meanwhile we pay upwards of $50k per year for each of them to keep on sapping our state taxpayer’s wealth.
I actually thought it was a decent article as well. I was half expecting it to be full of whiny bleeding heart ACLU types.
Yes, and it was almost shocking they didn’t have a voice in this. Quite right!
The Chinese have sand pits where they execute violent felons.
A military soldier is selected to put one bullet in the back of their head as they are bound kneeling.
First taste of blood and all that rot.
They used to have a column similar to obituaries, but executions in the Shang Hai Daily.
“I have a feeling that the Chinese government doesn’t like the idea of violent felons in their society. At least, not free-Lance ones.”
Nor in our society. They have a HUGE espionage operation here and the last thing they need are Americans getting ‘suspicious’ of those people with the slanty eyes.
I don’t think he is able to wish for anything anymore.
And the Anglo copper speaks fluent Chinese!
That is what cooked his goose.
Like Mrs. Clever speaking jive.
Who knew?
Cops are cops, everywhere. They don’t like murderers, and enjoy putting them in jail.
There are as many nasty a-hole murderers in China as there are here, and I’m sure the cops over there hate them, and hate seeing them walk around free.
That's one possible reason. Other possibilities exist though.
"The U.S. doesn't want to say, 'No way, no how, we never cooperate,' " said Margaret Lewis, a professor at Seton Hall Law School who researches China's criminal justice system. "But once we open the door for that … where do we draw the line?"
Maybe we could subcontract all our justice to china.
Maybe we could subcontract all our justice to china.
Maybe we could subcontract all our justice to china.
Two movies I enjoyed: Red Heat and Gorky Park. Fiction but good cop flicks. There are many more but those two come to mind.
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