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1 posted on 05/05/2018 9:11:21 PM PDT by Enlightened1
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Also the 2nd Fleet did a lot of training of forces. Given recent news it wouldn’t surprise me if that’s a factor in their re-establishment.


2 posted on 05/05/2018 9:18:14 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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2011...that was during Hussein O’s draw down of military effectiveness.


3 posted on 05/05/2018 9:21:07 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's62 fore sure)
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More worried about the ChiComs.


4 posted on 05/05/2018 9:26:17 PM PDT by BBell (calm down and eat your sandwiches)
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Yes, we reactivate a naval fleet under Trump that was deactivated under Obama, to firewall a threat from an adversarial power whom Trump allegedly colluded with to get elected. Is it just me, or does anyone else see the hypocritical disconnect in this whole scenario?


5 posted on 05/05/2018 9:36:09 PM PDT by Viking2002 ("For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind." Hosea 7:8)
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While the media rages about strippers, DJT quietly goes about the buiness of making America great again.


8 posted on 05/05/2018 9:50:46 PM PDT by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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“Russian planes and ships have in recent months made multiple incursions in the north Atlantic “

“incursion”... another word for sailing in, or flying above international waters. The gigantic, world spanning, Russian navy warrants a whole new fleet being activated. /s

Nevermind about China.


13 posted on 05/05/2018 10:13:46 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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“The 2nd Fleet command currently exists only on paper, but according to USNI News, a publication of the US Naval Institute, the command will open for business on July 1 with 11 officers and four enlisted personnel.

The command will eventually grow to 256 personnel — 85 officers, 164 enlisted and seven civilians — USNI reported, citing a memo signed earlier in the week by Navy Secretary Richard Spencer.”

But, but I thought a “fleet” had like a bunch of boats?


15 posted on 05/05/2018 10:28:08 PM PDT by vette6387
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.........ships of Tarshish.........Isaiah 2


23 posted on 05/05/2018 10:54:46 PM PDT by fahraint (git theah fuhstest with the mostest)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear; metmom; CynicalBear; SkyPilot; tuffydoodle; tang-soo; righttackle44; ...

Heads-up to the ping list


27 posted on 05/05/2018 11:02:47 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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Bring back Reagan’s 600 ship Navy.


29 posted on 05/05/2018 11:07:07 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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33 posted on 05/05/2018 11:12:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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In the 70’s, 2nd Fleet always did the nutty ports-of-call for the State Department. Leningrad was pretty cool, though.


35 posted on 05/05/2018 11:17:03 PM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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They’ve created a bureaucracy now all they need is some ships and planes.


38 posted on 05/06/2018 3:52:27 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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Would prefer the use of geographic names. What is wrong with the North Atlantic Fleet?


40 posted on 05/06/2018 4:42:17 AM PDT by C19fan
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cold duty
42 posted on 05/06/2018 6:23:16 AM PDT by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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The ships had to come from somewhere else because very few are being built.


43 posted on 05/06/2018 6:37:47 AM PDT by Midwesterner53
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Could we grant McCain his last “Make a Wish” request, and catapult him off the end of one of our aircraft carriers?


50 posted on 05/06/2018 9:36:01 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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Great... so does anyone know where were getting the ships to stand up another fleet from?

The retired Navy folks here and I were discussing it and they don't see them. It takes three carriers to start up a fleet; one in maintenance, one in work ups and one deployed.

It takes three destroyers, two cruisers, two attack subs and associated logistics ships(3): If one is doing the near peer fight, the 2+2 isn't going to cut it.

So where are we getting all these extra ships and subs from? We'd have to build three more carries, nine more destroyers, six more cruisers, six more attack subs and nine more logistics ships of varying configurations.

Where are the ships, personnel and CASH to man them coming form? Where are we going to BUILD the extra carriers?

We can build one carrier at a time right now. We have the dry dock space to build two at a time at Newport News, but doubling the workforce there and at suppliers? The infrastructure build out to do two carriers at a time has to be in the $100 billion range.

I'm all for spending the cash, but holly cow! Saying we're standing up another fleet with nothing to equip it? Talk about paper tigers...

51 posted on 05/07/2018 8:10:34 AM PDT by Freeport (The proper application of high explosives will remove all obstacles.)
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