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An EMP over the U.S. would certainly expedite the establishment of the global caliphate. Iran and nukes? Hmmm?
1 posted on 05/14/2018 8:37:04 AM PDT by Perseverando
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Death and Injury: Casualties from exposure, carbon dioxide poisoning and house fires increase.

See??? I told you that CO2 was bad for you...

2 posted on 05/14/2018 8:40:49 AM PDT by Quality_Not_Quantity (Capitalists sign their checks on the front. Socialists sign theirs on the back.)
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3 posted on 05/14/2018 8:42:42 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Quit calling them liberals, progressives, or Democrats. Call them what they are: COMMUNISTS!)
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An EMP over the USA would result in the annihilation of any country involved, of that I don’t have any doubt.

However, the nuclear burst is likely going to be at sea level in a port somewhere.


4 posted on 05/14/2018 8:42:56 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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5 posted on 05/14/2018 8:43:14 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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6 posted on 05/14/2018 8:44:53 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Marxism: Wonderful theory, wrong species)
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In before FR’s horde of EMP-deniers.

(This kinda thread usually brings ‘em out — big time.)


7 posted on 05/14/2018 8:48:07 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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Geez...

If only someone would have had $4 Trillion to spend on “shovel ready” projects to fix all of this stuff...

WHERE THE **** DID THEY SPEND $4 TRILLION?????


8 posted on 05/14/2018 8:49:18 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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Buried in this interesting excerpt is THIS

The report warned that the type of conditions spelled out by Pry could last a long time due to the difficulties fixing the electric grid, which many have testified would be fairly cheap to harden against an attack.

OK. Then the power companies should take the necessary preventive measures. They sure won't make any money in an EMP blackout. If the feds have to help fund it ... so be it. Protection of our country and civilization from attacks and invasions is a core function of government.

10 posted on 05/14/2018 8:51:29 AM PDT by plain talk
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Within 3 days, the populations of the major cities will be moving out. They will be on foot, rabble, marching out into the country side and suburbs.

In three weeks, 90% of those with cardiac issues, diabetes and other diseases that require high medical needs will be dead or dying.

Those with proper prepping will have arms, food and water to survive at least three months. They will have to fight off the city folk for resources.

The “One Minute After” series of books is well written and pretty factual about what will happen...


11 posted on 05/14/2018 8:52:25 AM PDT by GRRRRR (Make America Greater Than Ever Before!)
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“An EMP over the U.S. “

It would take several dozen such explosions to come close to the effect described.


12 posted on 05/14/2018 8:53:28 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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14 posted on 05/14/2018 8:56:54 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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I am very skeptical of the man-made EMP threat. Even so, the threat of a natural solar event is very real—something akin to the 1859 Carrington Event would be devastating today. It doesn’t seem like it would be all that expensive to harden critical electrical infrastructure or build in redundancies, so it may be worthwhile even if the EMP threat is bogus.

As I understand it, the difficulty in replacing large transformers is the key problem, and the Strategic Transformer Reserve seems like a good step to address that and I think it is already underway.


17 posted on 05/14/2018 8:59:21 AM PDT by The Pack Knight
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Has anyone asked Obama when he and his Iranian buddies plan to carry this out?


19 posted on 05/14/2018 9:00:31 AM PDT by eyeamok
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Your local utility is more interested in cramming a “Smart Meter” down your throat (and hence creating yet ANOTHER vulnerability) than in addressing this threat.


21 posted on 05/14/2018 9:04:30 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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I am beginning to think that plain old acts of sabotage from sleeper cells entering the US everyday in the name of diversity combined with cyber attacks will be the way this happens. Many of our enemies best attacks have been low tech use what you have and be damned the losses as there is a greater like awaiting you in paradise. With most of the biggest transformers now made in China you can be sure they will turn the screws on us. I have no doubt that we would in the end overcome such an attack, but the cost would be great.


22 posted on 05/14/2018 9:04:48 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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Acknowledge your vulnerability, or ignore it ( Your choice)
Vulnerability of the electrical grid, which remains unresolved between business expense ($$), or government intervention to protect society.
The government will protect its' own, firstly; citizenry will be left on its own
A skeptic, or a believer ?

“A long-term outage owing to EMP could disable most critical supply chains, leaving the U.S. population living in conditions similar to centuries past,
prior to the advent of electric power,” said the July 2017 report provided Secrets."

“In the 1800s, the U.S. population was less than 60 million, and those people had many skills and assets necessary for survival without today’s infrastructure.
An extended blackout today could result in the death of a large fraction of the American people
through the effects of societal collapse, fuel shortage, disease, and starvation.
While national planning and preparation for such events could help mitigate the damage,
few such actions are currently underway or even being contemplated,” added the executive summary."

"I'm here from the government, and I'm here to help."
Right ! Tell that to the people of Puerto Rico, if you need a recent example.
Do you have the necessary skills to survive a year,... or more ?
Water, food, shelter, transportation, communications, medications, ability to defend yourself and family,
necessary skills training, or a work around the loss of electricity ?
If you can't protect it, ..you don't own it !
YMMV !

28 posted on 05/14/2018 9:14:39 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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PING.

EMP Commission warns ‘blackout’ of electricity, food, water to last ‘year or longer

29 posted on 05/14/2018 9:17:18 AM PDT by LucyT
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31 posted on 05/14/2018 9:22:47 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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Seems awfully handwavy about E3 (affects the grid): http://www.empcommission.org/docs/A2473-EMP_Commission-7MB.pdf They say a nuclear burst EMP would be greater intensity than solar E3. However other sources point out that solar is longer duration allowing higher voltages to build up. The E1 and E2 pulses are mainly speculative. The chances of a hostile nuclear actor getting the E3 part right are minimal.
33 posted on 05/14/2018 9:24:33 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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38 posted on 05/14/2018 9:38:17 AM PDT by JonPreston
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