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Texas high school shooting leaves at least 8 dead, suspect in custody: report
foxnews.com ^ | 5/18/2018 | Kathleen Joyce, Jennifer Earl

Posted on 05/18/2018 8:44:44 AM PDT by rktman

At least eight people have been killed in a Texas high school shooting Friday, FOX 26 reported. The suspected shooter was taken into custody and the active shooter situation was said to be over.

Police officers responded to Santa Fe High School around 8 a.m. CDT after reports that a shooter opened fire inside. The gunman appears to be a student, KTRK reports, citing a law enforcement official. Further details of the incident were not immediately available.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2a; 2ndamendment; antifa; banglist; deathtoll; dimitriospagourtzis; houston; kaba; nra; pagourtzis; santafehigh; santafehighschool; schoolshooting; secondamendment; texas; trianglefaceboy
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To: SoFloFreeper

Cuomo has been and is full of his own power and self. Everything he does is to expand and grow that.


121 posted on 05/18/2018 11:52:23 AM PDT by caww
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To: texas booster

Hi and thank-you for that beautiful TX picture.


122 posted on 05/18/2018 12:04:01 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
OK so a metal detector and an armed guard.

Given the governments fire codes that require emergency doors that can easily be propped open ahead of time, having" a big tough looking guard at the door" can and will be circumvented.

Our high schools are far too big. No one can keep up with more than 500-600 teenagers

And a troubled teen can and does get lost in the system.

Too easy to pass off this kid as somebody';s else's problem.

Too easy to blame the guns, music or video games.
123 posted on 05/18/2018 12:05:04 PM PDT by RedMonqey (" Those who turn their arms in for plowshares will be doing the plowing for those who didnÂ’t.")
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To: BuffaloJack

“No, it’s time to arm the teachers and students.”

I was with ya until you said “students.”

Yes, marksmanship classes are good but the thought of armed kids roaming the hallways will just turn off the “mini van moms”.


124 posted on 05/18/2018 12:08:28 PM PDT by RedMonqey (" Those who turn their arms in for plowshares will be doing the plowing for those who didnÂ’t.")
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To: texas booster

Has the left begun their screeching on “gun control” yet?


125 posted on 05/18/2018 12:12:02 PM PDT by fwdude (History has no 'sides;' you're thinking of geometry.)
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To: RedMonqey

One door in one door out. Metal detectors and a guard. It makes a statement that you are not going to easily be able to wreak havoc. Most of these crazy kids shoot up the school because it’s easy.


126 posted on 05/18/2018 12:59:07 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
One door in one door out. Metal detectors and a guard. I

Sounds great if you wish to ignore Fire codes, and essential run the place like a prison.

And the costs, Each guard will be unionized and sit on their asses much of the day.(See Parkland, for an example)

In my opinion it's better to have smaller schools(yes more money) with a few 'Resource Officers who the shooter would have to account for and NOT know where he/she would be.

To easy to go though an unlocked/unsecured door and start shooting

I'm open for a few properly trained AND willing teachers to conceal carry in the classrooms.

127 posted on 05/18/2018 1:25:03 PM PDT by RedMonqey (" Those who turn their arms in for plowshares will be doing the plowing for those who didnÂ’t.")
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To: RedMonqey

Look the schools that have metal detectors and armed guards are not having these problems so it pretty much works. Nothing is perfect but it would be a major deterrent.


128 posted on 05/18/2018 2:40:24 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2; RedMonqey

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Armed people are “perfect.” Check the crime rate in Kennesaw, and then check the rate in Chicago and NY City.

Requiring a concealed carry permit before granting a teaching credential, and ending gun prohibition in schools will end this nonsense.
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129 posted on 05/18/2018 2:46:12 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: 1Old Pro

I’m surprised at the talk at some of the local coffee shops.

People are angry, just like some who stayed up too late and were shaken awake before sunrise.

Better yet, these are middle aged action oriented people.

On top of that, they’re rednecks who voted for Trump.

I had coffee with an Oregon state legislator this morning and he is very stirred up. And he’s not a run of the mill all talk and no cattle (To mix metaphors and slide in the fact that most political talk is pure bullshit).

The public schools are seen as incompetent time and money wasters. Some of you might be surprised at the hostility to the teachers union more and more common folk have.

I think that you, 1Old Pro, are the spearpoint of what will come to be.


130 posted on 05/18/2018 3:20:31 PM PDT by sciencewriter86
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To: Jaded
This was certainly planned. They are saying there are explosive devices in and around the school.

So, I will ask the obvious question; I have not really heard the answer yet...

How WAS he stopped?

131 posted on 05/18/2018 3:21:15 PM PDT by China Clipper ( Animals? I LOVE animals. See? There's one there, right next to the potatoes!)
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To: sciencewriter86

Caught your observation.

The only one that’s been openly attacking education is Mike Rowe.

He doesn’t even get an argument about it from Liberals. Cornell West just sat there in rapt attention.

It was on that horrible HBO show with the liberals on it. Can’t remember the name.

The NEA requires dismantlement. DeVos is quietly working on it.


132 posted on 05/18/2018 3:24:39 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: All

Here are a few simple ideas. First: kiInstitute a dress code. Girls don’t wear shorts. Boys wear socks and tuck their shirttails in their pants. And nobody wears freaking trench coats. Instill some discipline and teach them school is a place they’re required to go and there are rules.

Second: Teach kids self defense instead of running and hiding. If the gun is pointed in your direction, run like hell. But if the shooter is close and you’re behind him or beside him and not pointing the gun at you... Attack?


133 posted on 05/18/2018 3:28:57 PM PDT by Terry Mross (Liver spots And blood thinners..)
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To: rktman

Was driving most of the day listening on talk radio. Praying for all those families, the kids, the responders, the town and our state.

Prayers are sincere but this is Texas by God. It’s past time to arm teachers. If they’re too leftist to carry do we really want them teaching our kids anyway.

Prayers continue, first priority!

(I am a former teacher. There is nothing threatening to all good students by a trained armed teacher. Students pass me in WalMart and don’t know the difference)


134 posted on 05/18/2018 4:07:45 PM PDT by Wneighbor (An armed society is a polite society. -Robert Heinlein)
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To: chris37

Indeed you are precisely on target with your comment. I would further add that the leftist nature of the teaching profession is a large part of the problem leading up to the school terrorism. Don’t get me wrong about a sweeping generalization of teachers, I tried teaching a few years. The leftists drove me back to the world of rational folks. A teacher IMO should value those children enough to want to educate themself on firearm safety and protect those kids just like the parents would. I know I’m opening a huge can of worms, teachers will say they are overworked, underpaid, afraid of guns, blah blah... Either kids are worth protecting or they’re not. They socialist education system needs to figure it out or be replaced. Yes, big talk. But our president made a lot of big talk in his campaign speeches that people thought could not be done and he is slowly accomplishing these things.

I’m sorry for my rant, it’s not directed at you. I just listened to this story thru 4 hours in my car today, I’m a grandmother with grandbabies in public schools and just wired up. My teaching/mothering experience tells me I need to call more Congress critters, write more letters and make a difference.


135 posted on 05/18/2018 4:27:43 PM PDT by Wneighbor (An armed society is a polite society. -Robert Heinlein)
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To: Wneighbor

“They” don’t care about our thoughts and prayers. “They”also don’t care about our gun rights. As long as “they” can spew “their” garbage and have access to abortions, “they” are good. Sad dang news day for sure.


136 posted on 05/18/2018 4:31:44 PM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Wneighbor

It’s not about arming all teachers ...

It’s about allowing the teachers that want to be armed to do so ...


137 posted on 05/18/2018 4:33:52 PM PDT by bankwalker (Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.)
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To: sodpoodle

True statement you make. The Wikipedia list you attached isn’t even comprehensive as I am aware of one other school shooting in which I grew up knowing the perpetrator. The lefties are using an old thing as if it were brand new.

All heartbreaking to families. But it hasn’t emerged due to the 2nd amendment suddenly turning bad. We need to address protecting our kids from evil people, no tool is evil.


138 posted on 05/18/2018 4:40:13 PM PDT by Wneighbor (An armed society is a polite society. -Robert Heinlein)
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To: bankwalker

I completely agree with your point.

I’m just also adding that I question what doctrine a teacher who doesn’t want to learn to carry is teaching our young people. If they are choosing not to carry due to leftist ideals, quite frankly I don’t want them teaching in public schools. We live in a Capitalist nation. Public school should teach capitalism with a side of socialism, explaining why we choose another system. Of course that involves actually teaching the Constitution, government and history classes that are factual, not some SJW mess.

(Husband and I just agreed to disagree on this)

Hubby has pointed out there are good people who just don’t like guns, handicapped people who may have a disability preventing gun use. I get all that. I’ve just got a soapbox about socialism in public school.

And today is not the day to gripe about the issue, this is a day to pray and mourn with those devastated families.


139 posted on 05/18/2018 5:47:30 PM PDT by Wneighbor (An armed society is a polite society. -Robert Heinlein)
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To: rktman

Sorry, I think I got on my soapbox and was genrally rambling and unclear. My prayers are for those who have lost children/family members/dear friends. I guess I pray for those lefties too most days but it sounds more like “God just take em out.”

Pray for my grandkids every day about their schools. No parent or grandparent should experience what those families have today. My guess is they are a mix of political views and none of em give a crap about politics today. Probably the conservative ones at some time will feel and appreciate the prayers. Can’t imagine and never want to know a day like that, but being without God in the situation is a preview of the real hell.


140 posted on 05/18/2018 5:57:10 PM PDT by Wneighbor (An armed society is a polite society. -Robert Heinlein)
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