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Trump Promises Action After Santa Fe High School Shooting
The Truth About Guns ^ | 05/18/18 | Dan Zimmerman

Posted on 05/18/2018 1:00:03 PM PDT by Simon Green

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To: DoughtyOne

Back in the early 2000’s my son attended a downtown high school that was separated from a main road by a wide sidewalk.

A few times I picked him up there on the way out of town for the weekend with the plinking .22’s in the trunk.

Every time I ever took my other son to his high school campus I had a machete in the trunk and a 4” folder in the glove box.


61 posted on 05/18/2018 2:02:04 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Simon Green

Bring back scorn and shame ... or at the very least have a culture that does not celebrate it.


62 posted on 05/18/2018 2:03:51 PM PDT by zencycler
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To: zencycler

The Scarlet letters...NRA.


63 posted on 05/18/2018 2:12:33 PM PDT by gundog (Hail to the Chief, bitches.)
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To: Magnatron

Each state’s national guard could be tapped for guard service.


64 posted on 05/18/2018 2:12:58 PM PDT by chief lee runamok
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To: knarf
OK ... those are MY thoughts ... do YOU have any ?

Eliminate (or at least reduce drastically) all federal welfare and entitlements.

Pipe dream, though. It'll never happen.

65 posted on 05/18/2018 2:15:56 PM PDT by Simon Green ("Arm your daughter, sir, and pay no attention to petty bureaucrats.")
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To: Simon Green

I hope this kind of talk is just to placate the loony left, because it’s quite clear government not only cannot solve this problem, there is much evidence to suggest they contribute to it.

Also, how long before Ed Stack of Dick’s Sporting Goods raises the age to purchase a firearm to, say, 35? Raising it to 21 worked so well/s.


66 posted on 05/18/2018 2:16:28 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: zencycler
Bring back scorn and shame ... or at the very least have a culture that does not celebrate it.

At the risk of repeating myself...how would that be accomplished?

67 posted on 05/18/2018 2:17:53 PM PDT by Simon Green ("Arm your daughter, sir, and pay no attention to petty bureaucrats.")
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To: chris37

The cycle will continue until we become like Australia or England. The left has a true tactic to get what they want. They savor every shooting. America has been so warped by the left. I agonize over the next kids who have a death sentence and don’t know it.


68 posted on 05/18/2018 2:20:47 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: shanover
The cycle will continue until we become like Australia or England.

Canada by 2030. Australia by 2050. England by 2075. Japan by 2100.

Or am I being over-pessimistic?

69 posted on 05/18/2018 2:25:34 PM PDT by Simon Green ("Arm your daughter, sir, and pay no attention to petty bureaucrats.")
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To: Truth29

You’re absolutely right.


70 posted on 05/18/2018 2:31:16 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: forgotten man

The inner city school are filled with armed students who would fight back.

The armed students have figured out how to bypass the metal detectors.

Like by making shanks out of plastic.


71 posted on 05/18/2018 2:34:23 PM PDT by lightman (ANTIFA is full of Bolshevik.)
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To: Simon Green
"Eliminate (or at least reduce drastically) all federal welfare and entitlements. "

I said that:

(After weaning) Take the baby, no welfare, get a job, visitation for two years, re-evaluate.


Y'jes' can't stop with eliminate welfare .... it has to hurt or it doesn't mean anything.

72 posted on 05/18/2018 2:35:27 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true)
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To: knarf

You said to take the baby and sterilize the mother after her second child. I have no desire to give the government that kind of power.


73 posted on 05/18/2018 2:44:34 PM PDT by Simon Green ("Arm your daughter, sir, and pay no attention to petty bureaucrats.")
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To: Simon Green

Same way any cultural change occurs ... slow steady pressure in the same direction to make that change

So we just need to change direction.


74 posted on 05/18/2018 2:45:52 PM PDT by zencycler
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To: shanover

Yes, that’s true, but if we keep continuing to send kids to undefended and unfortified schools, then we are also to blame.

Tomorrow every parent in this country should refuse to send their children to any undefended and unfortified school.

Just stop sending them, and tell those who need to know that the children won’t be back until they’ve been secured.


75 posted on 05/18/2018 2:47:22 PM PDT by chris37 ("I am everybody." -Mark Robinson)
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To: zencycler
Same way any cultural change occurs ... slow steady pressure in the same direction to make that change. So we just need to change direction.

Easier said than done, I'll wager.

76 posted on 05/18/2018 2:56:18 PM PDT by Simon Green ("Arm your daughter, sir, and pay no attention to petty bureaucrats.")
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To: lightman

It would be interesting to look at the disparity of school shootings between the “good” schools and the inner-city schools. I wonder if some of the school shootings are viewed by the shooter as a fantasy. They get bullied, are the odd one, whatever. They can fulfill some of their “revenge” by playing video games, etc. But - the real nutcases want to turn their fantasy into reality.

Whereas the inner-city schools, and the kid’s lives, are already filled with enough brutal reality - they don’t need or want a violent fantasy to give their lives meaning?


77 posted on 05/18/2018 3:09:26 PM PDT by 21twelve
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To: Simon Green
This all started with;

"Eliminate (or at least reduce drastically) all federal welfare and entitlements."

Which was your response to my challenge to give me your thoughts.

I retorted;

I said that and added that taking away money and benefits doesn't hurt, nor will it have one BIT of an effect on whether a girl gets pregnant or not, because money can always be gotten.

Benefits can always be traded.

Without the baby, there's a hole in a woman's heart and THAT'S where the change(s) take place (The original challenge prompting my very first reply / comment)

Because single motherhood is firmly established in the American female psyche, it has to be eliminated by an equally psychic phenonenon.

I added (because ALL Americans are stubborn), if the TEMPORARY loss of a child (Did you forget the visitation part ?... it happens all the time even now as we speak) .. doesn't affect a girl's thinking then maybe something more drastic like sterilization could be mandated.

Observe Trump as an adult .... he is having a serious, positive affect by just talking ( carrying a big stick )


Trust me, if any of this actually happened, the lamestream would be all OVER it and it would become the cause celebre that would have you and me arguing and discussing ...

What are we gonn'a do about all these kids to unwed and single mothers that are draining our system?

78 posted on 05/18/2018 3:25:34 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true)
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To: Simon Green

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The only “action” that will work is requiring guns in significant numbers in schools.

Anyone who offers anything else should be “stoned outside the gate.”
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79 posted on 05/18/2018 3:31:16 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: DoughtyOne

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Gun regulations are the core of the problem, not the solution.

Keeping guins away from schools makes them easy killing zones.
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80 posted on 05/18/2018 3:33:14 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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