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Trump Promises Action After Santa Fe High School Shooting
The Truth About Guns ^ | 05/18/18 | Dan Zimmerman

Posted on 05/18/2018 1:00:03 PM PDT by Simon Green

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To: Truth29
We had a shooting at a HS in Dixon IL yesterday. The kid pulled a gun and started shooting. The school resource office returned fire and hit the kid almost immediately.

No injuries-except the shooter.

In another matter last night, the next county south of here OK'd teacher CCW. Have to have a state license and some additional school training and it's completely voluntary, but the local news had the school board president on and SHE just acted like it was a common sense decision.

Maybe we're winning after all.

41 posted on 05/18/2018 1:24:13 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: Sasparilla

I said stopped initiation of the shooting. I agree the officer probably did either end or hinder the shooting, but after it was underway.


42 posted on 05/18/2018 1:24:36 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Simon Green

>>I presumed you had specific policies in mind, not just a goal. Was I mistaken?

Yes, you were mistaken. It was just a goal. Like “making parents raise their children” and “end school shootings”. Solutions are complex and we’re just farting in the wind if we think that any of them that are useful will be implemented.


43 posted on 05/18/2018 1:26:55 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: Magnatron

“The funds to do this should come from our Federal coffers.“

No.

1.There’s absolutely no Constitutional authorization for such an expenditure.

2. Almost without exception the Feds f*** every single thing they touch.

3. America is 20 TRILLION dollars in debt.

L


44 posted on 05/18/2018 1:27:58 PM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: knarf
(After weaning) Take the baby, no welfare, get a job, visitation for two years, re-evaluate.

You want the government to raise any child born to a single mother for at least two years, possibly for their entire childhood?

No thanks. A bit too "Brave New World"-ish for my taste.

45 posted on 05/18/2018 1:28:15 PM PDT by Simon Green ("Arm your daughter, sir, and pay no attention to petty bureaucrats.")
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To: chris37
The next one is already being planned.

The next hundred are already being planned. Most of those plans will never go anywhere.

But with a few encouraging words to the wrong people, one or two of those plans will be put into action. That's all it will take. And too many "authorities" will look the other way, allowing things to proceed.

46 posted on 05/18/2018 1:29:18 PM PDT by flamberge (What next?)
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To: taxcontrol

When they catch these these people, in fact any people using guns during the commission of a crime, try them, convict them, and execute them in short order.

When we have a capital execution within months of these things taking place, that will put an end to much of it.


47 posted on 05/18/2018 1:30:59 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: taxcontrol

Something about that 1000 feet rule, bothers me.

Heck, people live tens of feet away from a school property line.

Are they then forbidden to own guns, or are they just guilty as soon as they step on foot outside their door with one?

What about people driving by, that may have guns in the trunk? Are they guilty?


48 posted on 05/18/2018 1:32:50 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: Simon Green

I fear this spate of school shootings is going to turn the people who were basically indifferent or were pro 2A but didn’t have especially strong feelings about it.

The gun lobby has always beat back the gun grabbers, this time I’m genuinely concerned. And there have been enough hypocrites in the dem party to stop them from voting to ban guns outright, which they could have done when they had control of all three branches.

The Florida gun laws should scare the crap out of all of us.


49 posted on 05/18/2018 1:33:40 PM PDT by jazminerose (Adorable Deplorable)
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To: Simon Green
Short term, there are lots of ideas already here, but long term, maybe we need to rethink the whole way we deliver education. With modern technology, why do we have to bring all of these kids together every day? The teachers’ union would fight it to the death, there ought to be innovative ways to educate a populace without all of the cost, logistics, and dangers of the present, very cumbersome and expensive system.
50 posted on 05/18/2018 1:34:21 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: Simon Green
I don't think there will be any major influx of babies for the government to care for.

If the single mother on welfare disappears, so will the "make babies for fun and profit"

Maybe add involuntary sterilization to the mix if you go out and get pregnant again after "we've" dealt with your first one.

It's all psychological.

People do things because they think they can and if the evidence shows they can, they will.

How many of us have slowed down after two 500 dollar plus speeding fines in one year ?

(Raising MY hand)

SOME behavioral modification techniques are not that bad.

In a man's world, we kind'a rely on the 2X4 attitude adjuster.

51 posted on 05/18/2018 1:39:14 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true)
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To: DoughtyOne

I thought SCOTUS shot down the 1000 yard rule?


52 posted on 05/18/2018 1:47:46 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Harden the targets.

Gun lockboxes in the classrooms that the teacher can access.

Cheap and effective, and can actually address the problem in the event of an event.

53 posted on 05/18/2018 1:50:40 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Simon Green

He promised action after the Florida shooting too. Once he stops and thinks about it he settles down.


54 posted on 05/18/2018 1:50:44 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: flamberge

That’s true that most plans will not go forward, but it only takes one.

Then our idiot politicians will step in, solve nothing and make everything much worse.

It’s really up to us to solve this problem.

If I had children, I would remove them from the fish barrel today and never return them there.


55 posted on 05/18/2018 1:53:50 PM PDT by chris37 ("I am everybody." -Mark Robinson)
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To: Rebelbase

That could be. I don’t remember everything that takes place.

If so, I appreciate the mention.

D1


56 posted on 05/18/2018 1:54:34 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: knarf
I don't think there will be any major influx of babies for the government to care for.

In the United States today, about 4 out 10 children were born to unwed mothers. Let's say that's cut in half. You'd still have the State raising million of kids.

Maybe add involuntary sterilization to the mix if you go out and get pregnant again after "we've" dealt with your first one.

Wow. You want the government to have a lot more power than I do.

57 posted on 05/18/2018 1:56:59 PM PDT by Simon Green ("Arm your daughter, sir, and pay no attention to petty bureaucrats.")
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To: Simon Green

Possible List for the President to pursue regarding demanded NEW rules/laws/regs etc.

Make it illegal to carry a gun into school
no explosives allowed on school grounds
make murder illegal
make shooting at people illegal
don’t allow anyone under 18 to buy a gun
......
oh wait, crap, ... never mind!


58 posted on 05/18/2018 1:58:09 PM PDT by redcatcherb412
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To: Simon Green

OK ... those are MY thoughts ... do YOU have any ?


59 posted on 05/18/2018 1:58:26 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true)
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To: Simon Green

He could send the TSA, the xray and scanner equipment and institute the same search criteria as entering a plane to enter a school. I bet they would get many volunteers to man the body scanners and pat/down or strip searches from within their ranks. But, I doubt the students or parents would go for it.


60 posted on 05/18/2018 2:01:43 PM PDT by redcatcherb412
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