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Trump Promises Action After Santa Fe High School Shooting
The Truth About Guns ^ | 05/18/18 | Dan Zimmerman

Posted on 05/18/2018 1:00:03 PM PDT by Simon Green

Responding to the shooting this morning at a Santa Fe, Texas high school, President Trump vowed that his administration would take action.

“My administration is determined to do everything in our power to protect our students, secure our schools and do everything we can to keep weapons out of the hands of those who pose a threat to themselves and to others,” Trump said during an event at the White House. “Everyone must work together at every level of government to keep our children safe.”

Exactly what that means in practice is anyone’s guess.

According to the White House, Trump spoke with Texas Gov. Greg Abbott, pledging to work with the governor and to provide federal assistance.

Trump has previously promised his administration would work on school safety before. Following the now infamous high school shooting in Parkland, Fla., the president met with students for an emotional forum in February. There, he promised tougher background checks and mental health screens for gun buyers.

Universal background checks? Raising the minimum age to 21? What’s your guess?


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To: knarf

I’d be surprised if we don’t find out soon that this kid had major problems, and was a fire-cracker waiting to go off.

I do get your point, that we need to put some sort of check in place since these schools seem to be dangerous places, and perhaps we should shut them down.

I will point out though, there is an initial approximate 14 year waiting period to get in, and each year there’s another three month elimination period.


21 posted on 05/18/2018 1:12:39 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: datura

>>How about parents start doing their jobs, and stop letting the schools raise their children?

Parents, “their”???

That’s the first hurdle. Stop making single motherhood and divorce so attractive to young women.


22 posted on 05/18/2018 1:14:16 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: Jaded

It is also illegal to bring a gun closer than 1000 feet from at least some schools. It’s certainly illegal to bring them inside.

It would be interesting to know how many laws were violated here.

Laws don’t work.


23 posted on 05/18/2018 1:14:30 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: Jaded

+1000

RE:
1. It is illegal for a 17 year old to purchase a shotgun.
2. It is illegal for a 17 year old to purchase a handgun.

Most importantly:

3. It is ILLEGAL to murder another person.


24 posted on 05/18/2018 1:14:43 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: FLT-bird

Yep. Since the introduction of gun free school zones, school shootings have increased THREE FOLD!


25 posted on 05/18/2018 1:15:41 PM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt)
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To: Bryanw92
Stop making single motherhood and divorce so attractive to young women.

How?

26 posted on 05/18/2018 1:15:45 PM PDT by Simon Green ("Arm your daughter, sir, and pay no attention to petty bureaucrats.")
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To: dirtboy

.... Only thing that could have possibly stopped him from initiating the shooting would have been a metal detector with an armed guard present...

He got into a gunfight with the armed guard present,the resource officer. The officer was shot in the arm and was in critical condition at one point.
A resource officer did stop the last school shooting.
There are videos of this event.


27 posted on 05/18/2018 1:15:59 PM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning)
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To: Simon Green
Damn those black stocked, semi-automatic rifles! /S

He had a sawed off shotgun and a .38, plus, possibly, pipe bombs.

28 posted on 05/18/2018 1:16:29 PM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! Oathkeeper)
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To: Simon Green
Exactly what that means in practice is anyone’s guess.

Not really. President Trump has clearly stated that schools need to be protected by armed guards.

29 posted on 05/18/2018 1:16:36 PM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: Simon Green

This guy had AntiFa stuff on him. Gun-carrying delusional lying leftists are the threat.


30 posted on 05/18/2018 1:16:39 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Simon Green

Stop with the “their oughta be a law”. We should not want a Federal solution. The FEDS created this problem with the gun free zones.

Repeal gun free zones and let the school districts, counties, states solve this problem.


31 posted on 05/18/2018 1:17:15 PM PDT by joshua c (To disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives)
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To: Simon Green

A good first step would be to stop paying them to have kids out of wedlock.

Flame away.


32 posted on 05/18/2018 1:17:34 PM PDT by Arm_Bears (Hey, Rocky--Watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat!)
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To: Simon Green

>>How?

You don’t live in the United States?


33 posted on 05/18/2018 1:18:53 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: DoughtyOne

The problem with the existing law is that it is unconstitutional. The rule should be school property, not 1000 feet as school property is easily identifiable and reinforces the right of the property owner (school district) to govern what is allowed on their grounds.

Individual states should be allowed to add exemptions for police, armed guards, armed teachers, CCW holders etc.


34 posted on 05/18/2018 1:19:42 PM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt)
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To: Arm_Bears
A good first step would be to stop paying them to have kids out of wedlock. Flame away.

I won't flame you for that. I want less government.

35 posted on 05/18/2018 1:20:00 PM PDT by Simon Green ("Arm your daughter, sir, and pay no attention to petty bureaucrats.")
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To: Simon Green
(After weaning) Take the baby, no welfare, get a job, visitation for two years, re-evaluate.

Opening your legs doesn't make you a mother just as ejaculating in a girl doesn't make you a father.

WE can play with the language too ... especially if our posterity is going to be misguided, mentally abused and murdered.

We have enough evidence.



36 posted on 05/18/2018 1:20:49 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true)
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To: Simon Green

Whatever.

The next one is already being planned.

Someone wake me when it happens.

Never mind, don’t.

I do not care about this anymore.


37 posted on 05/18/2018 1:21:52 PM PDT by chris37 ("I am everybody." -Mark Robinson)
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To: Bryanw92
You don’t live in the United States?

I presumed you had specific policies in mind, not just a goal. Was I mistaken?

38 posted on 05/18/2018 1:22:19 PM PDT by Simon Green ("Arm your daughter, sir, and pay no attention to petty bureaucrats.")
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To: Magnatron
Adding armed security officers to the staff, and revising classroom doors so they can be locked from the inside would get you 80% of the benefits with about 20% of the costs.

Smaller schools are easier to secure than larger ones.

Cost go rapidly up and there is very little benefit when you start to secure entrances with metal detectors and limited access. Video surveillance systems are mostly useless as preventive features.

The more effective measure is expulsion of troublesome students with follow-up monitoring. Every one of the mass-killers to date have shown plain-spoken indicators prior to their killing sprees. "Everybody knows" who the risks are (except there will unfortunately be a lot of false positives).

What is joked about has been though about.

39 posted on 05/18/2018 1:23:07 PM PDT by flamberge (What next?)
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To: Simon Green

If a person is determined to murder people and doesn’t care if they are caught, there is almost nothing one can do about it.

If they are clearly nuts, sometimes something can be done. Arming teachers etc. would help but nothing can absolutely stop a suicide killer.

That is why the Kamikazi were so dangerous.


40 posted on 05/18/2018 1:23:43 PM PDT by yarddog
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