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Santa Fe shooter killed girl who turned down his advances
The Hill ^ | 05-19-2018 | John Bowden

Posted on 05/19/2018 6:53:58 PM PDT by Trump20162020

The 17-year-old suspect in Friday's shooting at a Texas high school killed a classmate who turned down his repeated advances, killing her first in his deadly rampage that also killed nine others, according to the girl's mother.

Student Shana Fisher's mother told the LA Times that junior Dimitrios Pagourtzis gave her daughter "4 months of problems" before Fisher rejected him publicly in front of classmates.

"A week later he opens fire on everyone he didn't like," she wrote to the newspaper. "Shana being the first one."

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: dimitriospagourtzis; greece; greek; incel; incels; pagourtzis; santafe; santafehighschool
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To: shanover

>>Let’s remember the anti-bully government campaign failed also.

Only certain groups have been granted protected status.

All animals are equal, some are more equal than others down on the farm.

Last week’s news said that he’d been bullied by some students and even some teachers (maybe the coach for stinking).

Doesn’t excuse his murder campaign.

And while he specifically did not shoot people that he liked (a detail that is now surfacing), he’d planted some bombs and those kill indiscriminately so if they’d gone off, everyone’s life was at potential risk.


81 posted on 05/20/2018 1:17:23 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ads for Chappaquiddick warn of scenes of tobacco use. What about the hazards of drunk driving?)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Going by the original Reddit definition of incel, I would say no.

He had an ex-girlfriend, incels are too timid to even ask a girl out in most cases. Also, the word incel is just a derogatory description of a shy, ackward, and unattractive guy. The term is an empowerment mechanism, especially with the emphasis on the virgin stigma.

In my opinion, we need more emphasis on teenagers and young adults maintaining their purity, rather than promoting behaviors that make fun of kids who are virgins.


82 posted on 05/20/2018 1:17:44 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: wetgundog

He’s 17, last week’s reports said that he’s ineligible for the death penalty.

But as society opens up to voluntary suicide (euthanasia on demand even when you are not at end of life or suffering from a terminal condition), perhaps those in prison for lif sentences will be able to opt for the needle anyhow.

And those drug manufacturers who have no problems with their death drugs being used for euthanasia may still find them being used in prisons after all (they’ve been refusing to bake the cake for death row).


83 posted on 05/20/2018 1:20:44 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ads for Chappaquiddick warn of scenes of tobacco use. What about the hazards of drunk driving?)
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To: Az Joe

I have no problem losing an argument. But I’m not going anywhere.

Just keep in mind that you’re the # that pissed in my shoes first. And that’s your problem, not mine.


84 posted on 05/20/2018 1:30:35 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Repeat Offender

Excellent post.


85 posted on 05/20/2018 1:48:40 AM PDT by agrace
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To: bluejean
“Men never think it happens to them [fat, wrinkled, ugly], which is delusional.”

As a man I agree. I got my wake up 19 years ago pushing my twin daughters to the check-out lane one Christmas. I drew in my stomach a bit as I approached the cute, young check-out gal. “Oh - how darling!!! Are you their Grandfather!”

Sigh, as my stomach relaxed.

Of course, after 20 years those delusions remain!

I think this whole approach is a bit off topic. Teen boys can be jerks, teen girls can be jerks. It doesn't mean that people deserve to be killed over it. As a kid - sure I wanted to exact revenge on other kids. I would make up all sorts of plans. (Bombs thrown through their bedroom windows was usually at the top of the list). Never did act on any of them.

Not to say that spontaneous reactions to a slight never happened - but those were usually with a lot of pushing and shoving. Well - a length of pipe once - but I was on the receiving end of that. (Yes - he was one I dreamt of tossing a bomb through his window).

What restrained me was some sense of God, and that it was wrong. Also that I would get in a heck of a lot of trouble from my old man.

I think that is why this evil stuff happens so much these days. Kids have NO sense of Godly right and wrong, and the idea of guilt; and also parents that don't teach their kids right and wrong, with discipline being one of the forms of teaching it.

86 posted on 05/20/2018 1:51:47 AM PDT by 21twelve
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To: Trump20162020

Gunman taunted victims during attack.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-texas-shooter-20180519-story.html

When will he be dead!?


87 posted on 05/20/2018 2:17:57 AM PDT by SMGFan (Sarah Michelle Gellar is on twitter @SarahMGellar)
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To: bluejean

Jesus.

It’s like some of you are seriously trying to play like you have no damn idea what what point is, and instead are trying to take it personally.


88 posted on 05/20/2018 2:24:00 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Trump20162020

He let the wrong head rule his actions.


89 posted on 05/20/2018 4:46:51 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: DesScorp

Feminize the male population and in a matter of time the human race will be no more, there I fixed it


90 posted on 05/20/2018 5:23:51 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: DesScorp

Hot Salsa put him down and he killed her for her put down


91 posted on 05/20/2018 5:29:58 AM PDT by Thibodeaux (Long Live the Republic!)
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To: Repeat Offender

“...but this is the emerging society taken to the nth degree. All selfish all the time; happiness in pill form; and instant gratification.”

“this” -— killer’s rampage

Completely agree.


92 posted on 05/20/2018 6:01:42 AM PDT by odawg
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To: VanDeKoik; cherry

“Found the feminist.”

Cherry is a feminist for calling out your stupid post?

Quit while you are ahead. Don’t be a total idiot. When you mistake about something and it gets pointed out, man up and take the correction. Don’t shoot the messenger.


93 posted on 05/20/2018 6:31:55 AM PDT by unlearner (A war is coming.)
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To: JudgemAll
Except the left grooms these leftist feminine men to become relationship failures with women.

There's been a few comments questioning why these mass shootings never happen at urban schools. One explanation among many others could include that black boys are allowed to retain their masculinity. They're allowed to swagger, catcall, boast, and fight, use homophobic slurs, and celebrate toughness. White boys are expected to be crying, feminized pussies.

94 posted on 05/20/2018 6:34:47 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Az Joe

You are a disgrace. You combine praises to God in your tagline while simultaneously cursing someone? Particularly someone posting the truth?


95 posted on 05/20/2018 6:35:05 AM PDT by unlearner (A war is coming.)
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To: tinyowl

“We must outlaw women turning down men.”

Obviously you are being sarcastic, but for the sake of outside critics who think this is what conservatives really think, you should include the /s.


96 posted on 05/20/2018 6:40:40 AM PDT by unlearner (A war is coming.)
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To: Az Joe

Stop blaming the victim.

Girls have the right to reject the romantic / sexual advances of boys. And they do not deserve to be murdered for it. And such rejection is not a valid justification for going on a killing spree.


97 posted on 05/20/2018 6:45:55 AM PDT by unlearner (A war is coming.)
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To: Az Joe

Stop blaming the victim.

Girls have the right to reject the romantic / sexual advances of boys. And they do not deserve to be murdered for it. And such rejection is not a valid justification for going on a killing spree.


98 posted on 05/20/2018 6:45:56 AM PDT by unlearner (A war is coming.)
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To: Az Joe

Stop blaming the victim.

Girls have the right to reject the romantic / sexual advances of boys. And they do not deserve to be murdered for it. And such rejection is not a valid justification for going on a killing spree.


99 posted on 05/20/2018 6:47:04 AM PDT by unlearner (A war is coming.)
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To: Gene Eric; Az Joe

“And you want my address to what... get violent?”

Az Joe needs a time out before he digs his hole further.


100 posted on 05/20/2018 6:54:03 AM PDT by unlearner (A war is coming.)
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