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New bill aims to make sure Medicare customers get drug discounts....
washingtonexaminer ^ | 5/24/2018 | Robert King

Posted on 05/24/2018 4:11:33 PM PDT by caww

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To: Kozy

” I have spinal stenosis also. Will have to have that operated on in the future. Lousy to get old.”

Be careful who you elect to do your surgery. My wife has had three back surgeries, and she’s far worse off for having them, and two of them were done at Stanford. Stay away from surgery for as long as you are able, nothing really good comes from back surgery. And after the surgeons f*uck you up, you are sent to the “Pain Clinic” where there are really no solutions to the resulting pain from your surgery. Today, “pain management” is bull$hit!


21 posted on 05/25/2018 3:35:57 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: vette6387
Medicare is the single biggest driver of health care costs in the country. The desire to preserve Medicare fuels the debt and gave us Obamacare. It is ILLEGAL now for me to pay cash to one of my doctors. Why? His Medicare and other insurance contracts mandate the price. Those services now have to funnel through third parties with sky high cost structures and byzantine bureaucracies. Earlier this year I got turned away by my doctor who refused to perform a routine cancer screening on me that would have taken him 15 minutes. Why? because my health insurance, which now costs the same as my god damn mortgage, changed and he was no longer in my network. I offered to pay cash. NO DICE! Now, the closest doc to me is an hour away, barely speaks English and doesn't know my history.

shows you have little regard for your fellow senior citizens!

What exactly do you think I owe you?

22 posted on 05/25/2018 5:29:17 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: Mears

,but I DO go to the parties and write a few checks :-)

You get off easier than I do. I pay for the parties. lol


23 posted on 05/25/2018 6:29:42 AM PDT by sheana
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To: Poison Pill

“What exactly do you think I owe you?”

Respect! I’ve been carrying you all of my life! I’m not some $hitball public employee who is living off of you in perpetuity. At 78 I am still running a business with my wife who is two years my junior. I do sometimes hard physical work every damned day. And I paid into to SSA far more money than I will ever get out of it. When I think what I would have today, had I been able to “opt out” of SSA and build my own retirement with that money I get really pi$$ed off! And yeah, I’m on Medicare, but in order to have decent healthcare, I have to pay for a “Plan F” Supplement which is by no means free. But at least with it, I can go to any damned doctor that I choose. You haven’t contributed a dime to my retirement or healthcare so you haven’t ever given me anything, and the last thing I want is anything from you!


24 posted on 05/25/2018 9:05:10 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: vette6387
You haven’t contributed a dime to my retirement or healthcare so you haven’t ever given me anything, and the last thing I want is anything from you!

Medicare is a straight up wealth transfer. It is not insurance. It is simply theft. I have paid into that horrid system for 35 years and counting. That is dead money to me. I have gotten zero for those taxes. ZERO. If you are 78 and on Medicare, then for the past 16 years or so, I certainly have been funding your health care. I only do so because if I don't pay those taxes, my only other option is jail. Respect is earned. You don't earn it by pointing a gun at me.

25 posted on 05/25/2018 10:04:32 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: Poison Pill

I assume that when you turn 65 you will refuse Medicare.

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26 posted on 05/25/2018 10:08:27 AM PDT by Mears
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I assume that when you turn 65 you will refuse Medicare.

It won't be there. My generation is small. We are sandwiched between two huge demographic cohorts; the Baby Boomers who have voted themselves money from the Treasury in the form of ever expanding Medicare and SSA benefits, and the Millenials who have the voting power to shut it down. Once the Baby Boomers die off in significant enough numbers, it's over.

27 posted on 05/25/2018 10:21:45 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: Poison Pill

“Respect is earned. You don’t earn it by pointing a gun at me.”

But you pointed your gun at me first pal! As far as Medicare is concerned, it’s a program for all seniors, and yes, I am availing myself of it. And in a sense, since I am working and paying taxes, I am funding it myself. I did not retire at 65, but I chose to try and recoup what I was extorted by the FedGov for SSA and Medicare. To be a taxpayer, and not utilize Medicare would be stupid!


28 posted on 05/25/2018 10:34:33 AM PDT by vette6387
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I chose to try and recoup what I was extorted by the FedGov for SSA and Medicare.

Yes, it is extortion. At least your generation has the votes to keep the scam alive and get something back out of it. Mine doesn't. We'll be worked like tax mules until the Millenials kill it. Then we'll get to pay it all over again. Do you think the debt bomb will grow forever?

Tick....tick.....tick

29 posted on 05/25/2018 10:44:47 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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“Do you think the debt bomb will grow forever?”

It may “try,” but eventually, the laws of finance will prevail. We have it here in spades in California. Everywhere you turn, the State is raising the fees and taxes in an effort to stave of the inevitable bankruptcy that's coming. (Example: we own a building with an elevator. The State used to charge $110 per year, and actually come out every 12 months and do a physical inspection. Now they "inspect" more like every 18 months, and backdate the permit. But they don't actually come and physically inspect it. The "dream up" some "deficiencies," send us a letter to "have them remedied" by our service company within 30 days or face a $700 penalty for non-compliance). There are those who say a State cannot go bankrupt, to which I reply, “well, when you can no longer pay for goods and services, or salaries, it doesn't really matter what the laws say now, does it, because no one will do business with you!” And while that may not be bankruptcy in the classic sense, functionally it's the same thing. And as a Conservative Californian. I am tickled that the new tax cuts limit the deductability of State and Local Taxes, because it will hasten the financial demise of states like California.

30 posted on 05/25/2018 11:24:38 AM PDT by vette6387
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>> “ Do you think the debt bomb will grow forever?” <<

It cannot!

The “kingdoms of men” will cease to exist on the “Day of Trumpets” in 2024. They then become “The Kingdom of Yehova.” Yeshua and his Bride will then rule on Earth for 1000 years until the end of the physical universe.


31 posted on 05/25/2018 12:27:58 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

The coke I’m drinking right now does more damage over time than my cholesterol pills. The knife in my kitchen can do damage quickly. The chemicals under the sink, who knows?

How is it that we are trusted to not do stupid, and allowed to do stupid (cola) in some areas. But must pay hundreds of dollars on doctor bills to prescribe drugs so we don’t do stupid in some other area?

I agree that there are some drugs that should be controlled...but the pendulum has swung way too far towards protecting the anti-capitalist regulation that makes no sense.


32 posted on 05/25/2018 1:53:18 PM PDT by spintreebob
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>> “The coke I’m drinking right now does more damage over time than my cholesterol pills.” <<

No, it absolutely does not!

Statins are one of the most destructive things you can ingest. Its something worth studying; a total scam.


33 posted on 05/25/2018 9:19:07 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

“Statins are one of the most destructive things you can ingest.”

I take them-—my friends take them——no problems at all.

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34 posted on 05/25/2018 9:22:09 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Mears

Your bod, your life.


35 posted on 05/26/2018 10:52:03 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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