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Why The North Korean Summit Should Stay Cancelled
National Review ^ | 05/25/2018 | The Editors

Posted on 05/25/2018 9:06:53 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

It’s not exactly Donald Trump’s Reykjavik, but he has done the right thing by calling off the misconceived summit with Kim Jong-un.

The North Koreans have been yanking our chain over the last week or so, presumably trying to establish their leverage and begin a negotiation over the negotiation. They seemed to make some progress, with Trump saying the other day that maybe we could settle for something short of complete, verifiable denuclearization, which is supposed to be our core demand. The president may have tempted the North Koreans into the gamesmanship by occasionally seeming over-eager to take credit for a stupendous diplomatic success (stripping North Korea of its nukes) that hadn’t happened yet and is unlikely to happen.

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On the other hand, unpredictability is a typical North Korean negotiating tactic, so the sudden shift from warmth and sunshine to blustery demands and threats shouldn’t have been unexpected.

It was always far-fetched that the North would be willing to give up its nuclear weapons. For Pyongyang, the value of a summit wouldn’t be the opportunity for a good-faith negotiation at the highest levels but the chance to use a superficially successful meeting to unravel the sanctions against it, the way it has in the past.

President Trump says there’s still the chance of a summit at some point. It’d be better to give up hopes for a splashy meeting and instead double down on the maximum pressure campaign. There’s still room to tighten up further by, for instance, cracking down on the regime’s illicit sources of cash and imposing secondary sanctions on Chinese entities dealing with the North. The longer-term goal would be to crack the regime, or at least its will.

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It’s nice to believe that the North can be defanged easily and quickly at a headline-generating summit. But realism says otherwise. The United States shouldn’t, yet again, let the North Koreans play scorpion to our frog.


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To: CivilWarBrewing

RE: ‘The North Korean summit should stay canceled because we don’t want any successes for Trump’.

Actually, I don’t see that point being argued in this article at all.


21 posted on 05/25/2018 11:11:46 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

NR can’t stand the thought of a major Trump success any more than Nancy P. or Chrissy Mathews can.


22 posted on 05/25/2018 11:25:13 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: SeekAndFind

No. I think Trump made the right move.

What I disagree with is NR’s premise that the summit should be PERMANENTLY cancelled.

See, I am wise to NR’s game plan; which is, and always has been, the failure of the Trump presidency - just as they attempted to sabotage his candidacy.


23 posted on 05/25/2018 11:43:58 AM PDT by JME_FAN (uired to)
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To: SeekAndFind
Once again, Rich Lowry & Co. face the Trump gale head on with their flys unzipped, and their legs are getting wet in the process.
24 posted on 05/25/2018 11:52:38 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: JME_FAN

RE: I am wise to NR’s game plan; which is, and always has been, the failure of the Trump presidency

I do not see how suggesting a permanent cancellation of the summit because Kim Jong Un cannot be trusted is related to a Trump failure.

You may disagree with their premise ( i.e. Kim is not dealing in good faith ), but to say that this then equates to a Trump failure does not compute.

If you accept their “Kim is untrustworthy” premise, then having a summit is pretty much useless.


25 posted on 05/25/2018 12:08:39 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

My post was related to NR sponsored cruises. Avoid those!


26 posted on 05/25/2018 1:25:43 PM PDT by entropy12 (1 Mil Daca is the shining object to hide 30 mil low quality LEGAL immigrants in last 25 years)
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To: hinckley buzzard

National Review gleefully jumps on any thing they can spin as a Trump failure. Obviously they are on the wrong side of history again.


27 posted on 05/25/2018 3:03:57 PM PDT by Oregon Valkyrie (Truth, Justice, and the American Way! MAGA!)
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To: SeekAndFind

North Koreans paid off the National Review....


28 posted on 05/25/2018 3:39:07 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: JME_FAN

Trump tweet: Funny to watch the Democrats criticize Trade Deals being negotiated by me when they don’t even know what the deals are and when for 8 years the Obama Administration did NOTHING on trade except let other countries rip off the United States. Lost almost $800 Billion/year under “O”

National Review seems a lot like the Democrats sometimes.


29 posted on 05/25/2018 3:54:16 PM PDT by Oregon Valkyrie (Truth, Justice, and the American Way! MAGA!)
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To: minnesota_bound

RE: North Korea paid off the National Review

A very counter intuitive remark. Thr Norks are the ones eager to come back to the table. So how does paying off a publication that recommends the OPPOSITE of getting together help?


30 posted on 05/25/2018 5:11:25 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: poconopundit

I read the article link you posted. The author David Harsanyi has been defending
Trump against Mueller.

Rich Lowry hasn’t been anti Trump in his latest columns either. Dredging up the past and ignoring this particular column does not help your case either.


31 posted on 05/25/2018 5:15:49 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: be-baw

RE: Now are you going to whine about this post too?

Actually, I’m going to ask you to explain your remark. I’m waiting....


32 posted on 05/25/2018 5:18:34 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I would like to offer a different idea regarding N. Korea and how Trump is handling this.

The wide spread media narrative coming from both Leftist and Conservatives is that Trump’s goal is the complete denuclearization of N. Korea.

I would offer that Trump’s real goal is a step towards the De-Communization of N. Korea.

Rocket man would get filthy rich and his people would no longer be starving and imprisoned.

We get a new market to sell sh*t and build stuff.

Un gets rich and can adopt a model that mirrors what Xi Jinping is doing in China.


33 posted on 05/25/2018 5:29:51 PM PDT by Zeneta
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To: SeekAndFind

Trump was right to make the meeting. He was right to cancel it after NK stood up our people in Singapore. Now NK realizes they miscalculated and are being conciliatory. So yes, if Trump reschedules it, good. It’s all about sticks and carrots. So far Trump has gotten all the concessions and made none.


34 posted on 05/25/2018 6:01:05 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: SeekAndFind

OK, I only casually read the excerpts. Sorry for flying off the handle about Lowry and National Review.

But the guy has trained me to believe he and his publication cannot be trusted to tout anything but anti-Trump.


35 posted on 05/26/2018 1:11:22 AM PDT by poconopundit (MAGA... Get the Spirit. Grow your community. Focus on your Life's Work. Empower the Young.)
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To: montag813

OK, thanks for this knowledge or Buckley. Sounds like what you’re saying is Buckley was another George Will.

If so, I now know why he had a television program so long — the progressives could tolerate him as a odd-ball intellectual knowing he wasn’t too far from their positions.

NOTE: I posted a story about Michael Savage a couple days ago and most of the comments were negative about him.

This disturbs me because he is one of the true Donald Trump commentators.


36 posted on 05/26/2018 1:19:06 AM PDT by poconopundit (MAGA... Get the Spirit. Grow your community. Focus on your Life's Work. Empower the Young.)
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To: poconopundit

If you bothered to read the National Review, you will quickly find out that this publication is not a monolith.

They have authors that both support and are critical of Trump. This, I believe is a good thing, and what a vibrant press should be all about.


37 posted on 05/26/2018 7:34:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I hear what you’re saying, but I remember that story during the 2016 campaign when Thomas Sowell compared Trump to Hitler and Mussolini.

For a man who made a career out of economic studies to not recognize that Trump was one of the greatest entrepreneurs of the modern era truly escapes me.

So these things stay in the memory.


38 posted on 05/27/2018 4:30:06 AM PDT by poconopundit (MAGA... Get the Spirit. Grow your community. Focus on your Life's Work. Empower the Young.)
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To: poconopundit

RE: Thomas Sowell compared Trump to Hitler and Mussolini.

Could you provide the exact quote or the link? I want to read what he wrote IN CONTEXT.


39 posted on 05/27/2018 3:54:44 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind; V K Lee; HarleyLady27; Liz
National Review is not making it easy for me to find the Thomas Sowell story they published that got so many Trump fans on FR upset.  When I find a reference to it, it redirects me off the page.  But I found paragraph snippets.

Sowell did not call Trump Hitler.  I was mistaken: he did not mention Mussolini.  However, the word associations Sowell made were pretty incendiary:

The key paragraph are below:

I wonder what Mr. Sowell's thinks about Trump now after almost 1.5 years in office.  Has he issued a retraction?  Has he said any good things about what Trump is doing?

What Sowell missed about Trump is that sometimes the intelligent minority needs to use demogogue tactics to move a sufficient amount of voters.

Nobody explained this as well as H. L. Mencken and I posted on FR his 1922 essay where Mencken lays out the argument in beautiful and humorous fashion:

H. L. Mencken Predicted Donald Trump, the Enlightened Rabble-Rouser

40 posted on 05/28/2018 12:40:56 AM PDT by poconopundit (MAGA... Get the Spirit. Grow your community. Focus on your Life's Work. Empower the Young.)
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