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National Military Service To Fix, Heal, And Renew Our Nation
Townhall.com ^ | May 26, 2018 | Erich Reimer

Posted on 05/26/2018 6:41:14 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 05/26/2018 6:41:14 AM PDT by Kaslin
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Thousands of “Civilian Wannabees” do not a strong fighting force make.


2 posted on 05/26/2018 6:52:25 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Horse heads work!)
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To: Kaslin

Being drafted changed my life for the better, but I didn’t think so at the time. It’s not the kind of “rehab” I would’ve volunteered for.


3 posted on 05/26/2018 6:55:20 AM PDT by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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Macron’s plan is for a month of National service & it appears to be floundering.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/french-president-emmanuel-macron-orders-all-young-people-to-do-a-month-s-national-service-hdkh9ljzq

On the campaign trail, he said he would bring back “compulsory military service” for French men and women between the ages of 18 and 21, because young people must have “an experience” of “military life”.

However, last month a parliamentary commission including deputies from Macron’s La République En Marche party put forward a completely different set of proposals. Schoolchildren would do a tiny amount of hazily defined civic public service; as young adults, they would be implored, although not forced, to join volunteering groups.

It fell to Macron’s defence minister Florence Parly to insist that the programme would indeed be both military and mandatory. But then the president made his own pronouncement, saying that it would definitely be compulsory. Young people would have to experience some nebulous “exposure” to the military, although they could mainly participate in civic organisations. After that, Macron quite openly said his government wouldn’t decide on the details until later.

The last thing France’s armed forces want is to use their already overstretched money and resources to give young people some ill-defined “experience” and compel the inevitable swathes of the reluctant. They have serious jobs to do on several fronts.

After years of budget cuts, they’re fighting in the Sahel and the Middle East while also patrolling the streets at home. Meanwhile, even according to the Macron’s generous projections, national service would cost 2-3 billion euros a year – on top of a one-off 15-20 billion euro “investment” cost.

So why is Macron so keen on it? His self-proclamation as a “Jupiterian” President is telling. This comparison of himself to the Roman king of gods evinces an ego the size of the planet Jupiter. That explains why Macron made such a grandiosely gimmicky campaign promise and is ploughing on with it despite clear signs that – in all of its suggested manifestations – it is a very bad idea.

https://reaction.life/macrons-plan-bring-back-national-service-baffling/

It is a lousy idea and would be a lousy idea in America as well.


4 posted on 05/26/2018 6:55:56 AM PDT by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance.)
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”Military service promotes discipline, grit, determination and teamwork.”

It promotes those values only as long as the “powers that be” support those values. A Hillary! administration would instantly weaponize compulsory service and promote anything and everything leftist.

People who imagine a draft will somehow cure society’s ills have not been paying attention for the last 40 years, or so.

5 posted on 05/26/2018 6:56:46 AM PDT by Flag_This (Liberals are locusts.)
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6 posted on 05/26/2018 6:56:51 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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To: Kaslin
National service sounds daunting, but our country is at a difficult point right now. It seems it’s at least an idea worth considering and exploring by our policymakers and discussing among our citizenry.

We have a $700 billion defense budget now. How much would drafting tens of thousands of conscripts the military doesn't need add to that?

7 posted on 05/26/2018 7:03:14 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Kaslin

Written by someone who didn’t serve. And not a word explaining how involuntary servitude doesn’t mean “involuntary servitude”. Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

But last of all, it would be flat out evil to have a draft today when the military is run by perverts. You’ll take good christian kids and force them to submit to some tranny, lesbo, homo, atheist, etc. Furthermore, at this point women would be drafted.
Americans who raise a decent daughter don’t want them forced into that immoral snakepit.
The leaders of our military in WWII are long gone. No man would want his kid subjected to this bunch of deviants.


8 posted on 05/26/2018 7:04:42 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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I have always believed we should have a rational draft of all young men at age 18 or upon graduation from high school to consist of 3 or 6 months of intense basic training with no assignment to any post and no enlistment permitted for 6 months after completion. That would remove the unfairness of previous draft systems and eliminate most of the fear of the military that powers most of the resistance to it. It could include females but females should not have the option of enlisting for combat jobs. Women should possibly be trained to defend the home et al when there are no men about.

The system would familiarize the whole population with firearms and reduce the pressure to ban them as well as provide a vast reserve of basically trained potential troops who do not fear service as it is not an unknown and does not relatively disrupt lives. When a mobilization is required we don't get caught with a tiny trained army and many months necessary to increase it. The two oceans no longer give us the time to train that we had in WWII.

9 posted on 05/26/2018 7:04:46 AM PDT by arthurus (kiut)
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This idea is so comical that it's not even worth considering.

There's no way in hell you can ever justify a conscription like this for non-military purposes in a free nation. And there is no justification even for a draft for military purposes if it involves sending troops to fight wars in Third World sh!t-holes.

If I'm drafted tomorrow and I'm not sent to our southern border to repel a Latin American invasion, then there's no reason to have a draft -- period.

This delusional author looks upon a draft as nothing more than an animal control and pet training project.

10 posted on 05/26/2018 7:08:03 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's.")
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The article is total bullshit.


11 posted on 05/26/2018 7:08:23 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: Kaslin

No.


12 posted on 05/26/2018 7:08:41 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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“It introduces people to those from all walks of life, “

That used to mean a boy from Texas met a kid from Brooklyn and they rooted for different baseball teams. Or maybe a kid from the midwest met the first Jewish person, or a black guy from the deep south. It was good then.

Today the deal is over, the Air Force academy is run by a lesbian, there is a wiccan altar there, Navy ship captains are women texting friends and getting sailors killed in collisions, Chaplains are punished harshly for saying the word Jesus, Ranger officers might be a 37 year old mommy, and sodomites and trannies are everywhere.


13 posted on 05/26/2018 7:13:33 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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France is the size of what?? One US state. It is ridiculous when people say we should be like Switzerland or Germany or some other state sizwd country. Our military has enough problems withour adding a bunch of crybabies.


14 posted on 05/26/2018 7:14:32 AM PDT by momincombatboots (No Wall, No Way 2018)
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To: Kaslin

Enhance the reserve programs for Navy/Marine, Army, Air Force and Coasties. Let them sign up for what they are qualified to do after a year of community college and then go active in a year for two years and then have 3 more years of active reserve duty.

The last thing our military needs today is to become the Nanny Military to finish raising and maturing the snowflakes in our country.

Keep our volunteer military and enhance the rewards and pro pay for those who deserve it.


15 posted on 05/26/2018 7:17:42 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Reality! Deep State owns/controls the DNC, DOJ/FBI/CIA, our media and its fake news/lying mediots!)
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“It is ridiculous when people say we should be like Switzerland”

A Swiss model is fine. Nobody invades Switzerland, not even the Nazis gave that a try. A rifle based militia, backed by nuclear weapons is truly the ultimate in national defense.
Where it is less formidable is in launching wars of convenience and profit all over the earth.

America’s national defense has historically been a strong Navy and a relatively weak standing Army. Add in nuclear weapons and that historic posture is nearly perfect.

But America’s statists, right and left, love the idea of ordering and structuring society.


16 posted on 05/26/2018 7:22:42 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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BINGO. Every generation of my family has served all the way back to King Phillips War. No more. I’ll be the last.


17 posted on 05/26/2018 7:24:04 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Make American Intelligence Great Again.)
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To: Kaslin

If you want to know how bad an idea is, ask yourself whether individual states would experiment with it.

Answer: No. But maybe border states like Texas and Arizona.


18 posted on 05/26/2018 7:28:17 AM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: Kaslin
I have mixed feelings about this. "Service" at the point of a gun is nothing more than slavery. And it's a good way to weaken morale, inject a lot of talentless bodies into the military, and teach some undesirables a lot about how we wage war.

At the same time, some form of national obligation might be useful. Maybe requiring a certain number of "volunteer" hours every year for a couple of years. Something like the CCC ...

Just keep the malcontents and slackers away from our armed forces.

19 posted on 05/26/2018 7:30:16 AM PDT by IronJack (A)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Of course it is. Any article with “national service” in the headline is calling for universal indoctrination and promotion of welfare work.


20 posted on 05/26/2018 7:32:41 AM PDT by arthurus (lL|)
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